From: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> Cc: "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "KVM list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, "Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>, "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>, "Michel Lespinasse" <walken@google.com>, "Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>, linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>, "Daniel Jordan" <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>, "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>, "Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, "open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>, "Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>, "Pawel Osciak" <pawel@osciak.com>, "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, "Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>, "Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>, "Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, "Laurent Dufour" <ldufour@linux.ibm.com>, "Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, "Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>, "Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/17] media/videbuf1|2: Mark follow_pfn usage as unsafe Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 10:18:27 +0100 Message-ID: <CAKMK7uEzFAtr9yxjaxi-kiuZhb+hWT3q6E41OegJr+J2-zkT8w@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <e1f7d30b-2012-0249-66c7-cf9d7d6246ad@xs4all.nl> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 9:28 AM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > On 20/11/2020 09:06, Hans Verkuil wrote: > > On 19/11/2020 15:41, Daniel Vetter wrote: > >> The media model assumes that buffers are all preallocated, so that > >> when a media pipeline is running we never miss a deadline because the > >> buffers aren't allocated or available. > >> > >> This means we cannot fix the v4l follow_pfn usage through > >> mmu_notifier, without breaking how this all works. The only real fix > >> is to deprecate userptr support for VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP mappings and > >> tell everyone to cut over to dma-buf memory sharing for zerocopy. > >> > >> userptr for normal memory will keep working as-is, this only affects > >> the zerocopy userptr usage enabled in 50ac952d2263 ("[media] > >> videobuf2-dma-sg: Support io userptr operations on io memory"). > >> > >> Acked-by: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> > > > > Acked-by: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl> > > Actually, cancel this Acked-by. > > So let me see if I understand this right: VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP mappings can > move around. There is a mmu_notifier that can be used to be notified when > that happens, but that can't be used with media buffers since those buffers > must always be available and in the same place. > > So follow_pfn is replaced by unsafe_follow_pfn to signal that what is attempted > is unsafe and unreliable. > > If CONFIG_STRICT_FOLLOW_PFN is set, then unsafe_follow_pfn will fail, if it > is unset, then it writes a warning to the kernel log but just continues while > still unsafe. > > I am very much inclined to just drop VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP support in the media > subsystem. For vb2 there is a working alternative in the form of dmabuf, and > frankly for vb1 I don't care. If someone really needs this for a vb1 driver, > then they can do the work to convert that driver to vb2. > > I've added Mauro to the CC list and I'll ping a few more people to see what > they think, but in my opinion support for USERPTR + VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP > should just be killed off. > > If others would like to keep it, then frame_vector.c needs a comment before > the 'while' explaining why the unsafe_follow_pfn is there and that using > dmabuf is the proper alternative to use. That will make it easier for > developers to figure out why they see a kernel warning and what to do to > fix it, rather than having to dig through the git history for the reason. I'm happy to add a comment, but otherwise if you all want to ditch this, can we do this as a follow up on top? There's quite a bit of code that can be deleted and I'd like to not hold up this patch set here on that - it's already a fairly sprawling pain touching about 7 different subsystems (ok only 6-ish now since the s390 patch landed). For the comment, is the explanation next to unsafe_follow_pfn not good enough? So ... can I get you to un-cancel your ack? Thanks, Daniel > > Regards, > > Hans > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Hans > > > >> Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com> > >> Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> > >> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> > >> Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> > >> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> > >> Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> > >> Cc: Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> > >> Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> > >> Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> > >> Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org > >> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org > >> Cc: linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org > >> Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org > >> Cc: Pawel Osciak <pawel@osciak.com> > >> Cc: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com> > >> Cc: Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com> > >> Cc: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> > >> Cc: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.ibm.com> > >> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> > >> Cc: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com> > >> Cc: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com> > >> Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> > >> -- > >> v3: > >> - Reference the commit that enabled the zerocopy userptr use case to > >> make it abundandtly clear that this patch only affects that, and not > >> normal memory userptr. The old commit message already explained that > >> normal memory userptr is unaffected, but I guess that was not clear > >> enough. > >> --- > >> drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c | 2 +- > >> drivers/media/v4l2-core/videobuf-dma-contig.c | 2 +- > >> 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > >> > >> diff --git a/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c b/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c > >> index a0e65481a201..1a82ec13ea00 100644 > >> --- a/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c > >> +++ b/drivers/media/common/videobuf2/frame_vector.c > >> @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@ int get_vaddr_frames(unsigned long start, unsigned int nr_frames, > >> break; > >> > >> while (ret < nr_frames && start + PAGE_SIZE <= vma->vm_end) { > >> - err = follow_pfn(vma, start, &nums[ret]); > >> + err = unsafe_follow_pfn(vma, start, &nums[ret]); > >> if (err) { > >> if (ret == 0) > >> ret = err; > >> diff --git a/drivers/media/v4l2-core/videobuf-dma-contig.c b/drivers/media/v4l2-core/videobuf-dma-contig.c > >> index 52312ce2ba05..821c4a76ab96 100644 > >> --- a/drivers/media/v4l2-core/videobuf-dma-contig.c > >> +++ b/drivers/media/v4l2-core/videobuf-dma-contig.c > >> @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@ static int videobuf_dma_contig_user_get(struct videobuf_dma_contig_memory *mem, > >> user_address = untagged_baddr; > >> > >> while (pages_done < (mem->size >> PAGE_SHIFT)) { > >> - ret = follow_pfn(vma, user_address, &this_pfn); > >> + ret = unsafe_follow_pfn(vma, user_address, &this_pfn); > >> if (ret) > >> break; > >> > >> > > > -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
next prev parent reply index Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2020-11-19 14:41 [PATCH v6 00/17] follow_pfn and other iomap races Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 01/17] drm/exynos: Stop using frame_vector helpers Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 02/17] drm/exynos: Use FOLL_LONGTERM for g2d cmdlists Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 03/17] misc/habana: Stop using frame_vector helpers Daniel Vetter 2020-11-21 12:47 ` Oded Gabbay 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 04/17] misc/habana: Use FOLL_LONGTERM for userptr Daniel Vetter 2020-11-21 10:15 ` Oded Gabbay 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 05/17] mm/frame-vector: Use FOLL_LONGTERM Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 06/17] media: videobuf2: Move frame_vector into media subsystem Daniel Vetter 2020-11-20 8:07 ` Hans Verkuil 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 07/17] mm: Close race in generic_access_phys Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 08/17] mm: Add unsafe_follow_pfn Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 09/17] media/videbuf1|2: Mark follow_pfn usage as unsafe Daniel Vetter 2020-11-20 8:06 ` Hans Verkuil 2020-11-20 8:28 ` Hans Verkuil 2020-11-20 8:32 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-11-20 9:18 ` Daniel Vetter [this message] 2020-11-20 10:38 ` Hans Verkuil 2020-11-20 10:51 ` Daniel Vetter 2020-11-20 12:08 ` Hans Verkuil 2020-11-20 12:23 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-11-24 14:16 ` Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 10/17] vfio/type1: Mark follow_pfn " Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 11/17] PCI: Obey iomem restrictions for procfs mmap Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 12/17] /dev/mem: Only set filp->f_mapping Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 13/17] resource: Move devmem revoke code to resource framework Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 14/17] sysfs: Support zapping of binary attr mmaps Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 15/17] PCI: Revoke mappings like devmem Daniel Vetter 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 16/17] RFC: kvm: pass kvm argument to follow_pfn callsites Daniel Vetter 2020-11-20 15:33 ` Paolo Bonzini 2020-11-20 15:44 ` Daniel Vetter 2020-11-20 15:55 ` Paolo Bonzini 2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH v6 17/17] RFC: mm: add mmu_notifier argument to follow_pfn Daniel Vetter 2020-11-20 18:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-11-24 14:28 ` Daniel Vetter 2020-11-24 15:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-11-25 9:00 ` Daniel Vetter 2020-11-27 13:12 ` [PATCH v6 00/17] follow_pfn and other iomap races Jason Gunthorpe 2020-11-27 15:36 ` Daniel Vetter
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