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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
Cc: "Emma Anholt" <emma@anholt.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 05/35] drm/connector: Add TV standard property
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2022 16:43:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXq_xGPx46bdnUFGDiG4kcgdxtXaRGTucFd3TRq8353dg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220816141116.5nuszmilqv2exdb3@houat>

Hi Maxime,

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 4:11 PM Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 03:29:07PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 3:20 PM Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 03:25:18PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> > > > > @@ -1649,11 +1650,40 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(drm_mode_create_tv_margin_properties);
> > > > >   * 0 on success or a negative error code on failure.
> > > > >   */
> > > > >  int drm_mode_create_tv_properties(struct drm_device *dev,
> > > > > +                                 unsigned int supported_tv_norms,
> > > > >                                   unsigned int num_modes,
> > > > >                                   const char * const modes[])
> > > > >  {
> > > > > +       static const struct drm_prop_enum_list tv_norm_values[] = {
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_NTSC_443) - 1, "NTSC-443" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_NTSC_J) - 1, "NTSC-J" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_NTSC_M) - 1, "NTSC-M" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_60) - 1, "PAL-60" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_B) - 1, "PAL-B" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_D) - 1, "PAL-D" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_G) - 1, "PAL-G" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_H) - 1, "PAL-H" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_I) - 1, "PAL-I" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_M) - 1, "PAL-M" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_N) - 1, "PAL-N" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_PAL_NC) - 1, "PAL-Nc" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_SECAM_60) - 1, "SECAM-60" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_SECAM_B) - 1, "SECAM-B" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_SECAM_D) - 1, "SECAM-D" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_SECAM_G) - 1, "SECAM-G" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_SECAM_K) - 1, "SECAM-K" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_SECAM_K1) - 1, "SECAM-K1" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_SECAM_L) - 1, "SECAM-L" },
> > > >
> > > > The above are analog standards, with a variable horizontal resolution.
> > > >
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_HD480I) - 1, "hd480i" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_HD480P) - 1, "hd480p" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_HD576I) - 1, "hd576i" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_HD576P) - 1, "hd576p" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_HD720P) - 1, "hd720p" },
> > > > > +               { __builtin_ffs(DRM_MODE_TV_NORM_HD1080I) - 1, "hd1080i" },
> > > >
> > > > The above are digital standards, with a fixed resolution.
> > >
> > > Are they?
> > >
> > > It's not clear to me from looking at nouveau, but I was under the
> > > impression that they were modes for a component output, so CEA 770.3. I
> > > don't have the spec though, so I can't check.
> >
> > Oh right, I forgot about analog HD over component, where you can use
> > other pixel clocks than in the digital standard.
> >
> > > > You seem to have missed "hd1080p"?
> > >
> > > Nobody is using it. If we ever have a driver that uses it I think we can
> > > add it.
> >
> > The PS3 supports 1080p over component
> > https://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/videooutput.html
>
> Yeah, and iirc the Xbox360 did too, but what I meant by nobody is using
> it is that there's no driver using it currently.

OK, it can be added later.

> > > > In addition, "hd720p", "hd080i", and "hd1080p" are available in both 50
> > > > and 60 (actually 59.94) Hz, while "hd1080p" can also use 24 or 25 Hz.
> > >
> > > It looks like nouveau only exposes modes for 480p at 59.94Hz, 576p at
> > > 50Hz, 720p at 60Hz, 1080i at 30Hz.
> >
> > PS3 supports both 50 and 60 Hz (same link above).
>
> I'm probably wary on this, but I'd rather stay at feature parity for
> this series. There's already plenty of occasion to screw up something
> that I'd rather not introduce new stuff I haven't been able to test :)
>
> Provided we can easily extend it to support these additional features of
> course :)
>
> > > > Either you have to add them here (e.g. "hd720p50" and "hd720p60"), or
> > > > handle them through "@<refresh>".  The latter would impact "[PATCH v1
> > > > 09/35] drm/modes: Move named modes parsing to a separate function", as
> > > > currently a named mode and a refresh rate can't be specified both.
> > >
> > > I think the former would make more sense. It simplifies a bit the
> > > parser, and we're going to use a named mode anyway.
> > >
> > > > As "[PATCH v1 34/35] drm/modes: Introduce the tv_mode property as a
> > > > command-line option" uses a separate "tv_mode" option, and not the main
> > > > mode name, I think you want to add them here.
> > >
> > > It's a separate story I think, we could have a named mode hd720p50,
> > > which would be equivalent to 1280x720,tv_mode=hd720p
> >
> > So where's the field rate in "1280x720,tv_mode=hd720p"?
>
> Yeah, sorry I meant 1280x720@50,tv_mode=hd720p

Above you said "I think the former would make more sense", so that
should be "1280x720,tv_mode=hd720p50"?

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-16 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-29 16:34 [PATCH v1 00/35] drm: Analog TV Improvements Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 01/35] drm/atomic-helper: Rename drm_atomic_helper_connector_tv_reset to avoid ambiguity Maxime Ripard
2022-08-08 12:25   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 02/35] drm/connector: Rename subconnector state variable Maxime Ripard
2022-08-08 12:26   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 03/35] drm/atomic: Add TV subconnector property to get/set_property Maxime Ripard
2022-08-08 12:30   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-15  7:35     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-15 10:48       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 04/35] drm/modes: Introduce 480i and 576i modes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-02 13:58   ` Jani Nikula
2022-08-02 14:16     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-08-16 11:58       ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-12 13:18   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-16 13:26     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-16 15:00       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-17  7:53         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-17  8:51           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-17 13:14             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-17 14:01               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-18 12:39                 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-18 12:57                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-18 13:42                     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-18 15:34                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-18 15:46                         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-18 15:56                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-24 16:42                             ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-29 13:29                               ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 14:14                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-29 14:33                                   ` Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 05/35] drm/connector: Add TV standard property Maxime Ripard
2022-08-08 12:44   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-16  8:26     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-16  9:42       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-16  9:49         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-16 19:35           ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-17 11:46             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-17 13:11               ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-17 23:23                 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-18 15:01                   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-18 15:31                     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-21 11:43                       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-26  8:21                         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-18 15:27                 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-12 13:25   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-16 13:20     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-16 13:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-16 14:11         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-16 14:43           ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-08-16 15:49             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-17  7:31               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-17  7:32                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-17  7:47                 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-17  8:35                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-17 11:14                     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-17 13:05                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-17 13:18                         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-17 14:04                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-18 14:54                             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-18 15:20                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-18 15:34                                 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-19  9:35                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-25 13:39                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-20 20:12   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-25 13:44     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-25 15:13       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29  8:28         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 06/35] drm/connector: Only register TV mode property if present Maxime Ripard
2022-08-08 12:49   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-15 10:40     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-15 10:49       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 07/35] drm/modes: Only consider bpp and refresh before options Maxime Ripard
2022-08-12 13:25   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-16 12:20     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 08/35] drm/client: Add some tests for drm_connector_pick_cmdline_mode() Maxime Ripard
2022-08-02 10:14   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-08-15  8:42     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 09/35] drm/modes: Move named modes parsing to a separate function Maxime Ripard
2022-08-12 13:27   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-16 13:46     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-16 14:44       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 10/35] drm/modes: Switch to named mode descriptors Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 11/35] drm/modes: Fill drm_cmdline mode from named modes Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 12/35] drmi/modes: Properly generate a drm_display_mode from a named mode Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 13/35] drm/atomic-helper: Add a TV properties reset helper Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 14/35] drm/atomic-helper: Add an analog TV atomic_check implementation Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 17:16   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-15  8:30     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 15/35] drm/vc4: vec: Remove empty mode_fixup Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 16/35] drm/vc4: vec: Convert to atomic helpers Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 17/35] drm/vc4: vec: Refactor VEC TV mode setting Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 18/35] drm/vc4: vec: Remove redundant atomic_mode_set Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 19/35] drm/vc4: vec: Fix timings for VEC modes Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 20/35] drm/vc4: vec: Switch for common modes Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 18:12   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-16 11:57     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 21/35] drm/vc4: vec: Fix definition of PAL-M mode Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 22/35] drm/vc4: vec: Use TV Reset implementation Maxime Ripard
2022-07-30  3:03   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 23/35] drm/vc4: vec: Convert to the new TV mode property Maxime Ripard
2022-08-20 17:22   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-24 15:26     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-25 13:14       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 12:13         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 24/35] drm/vc4: vec: Add support for more analog TV standards Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 17:55   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-15  8:37     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-24 16:59       ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 25/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Remove unused mode_valid Maxime Ripard
2022-07-30  9:13   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 26/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Convert to atomic hooks Maxime Ripard
2022-07-30  9:12   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 27/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Merge mode_set into atomic_enable Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 28/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Remove useless function Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 29/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Remove useless destroy function Maxime Ripard
2022-07-30  9:14   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 30/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Rename error label Maxime Ripard
2022-07-30  9:15   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 31/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Add missing reset assertion Maxime Ripard
2022-07-30  9:16   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 32/35] drm/sun4i: tv: Convert to the new TV mode property Maxime Ripard
2022-08-28 17:12   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 33/35] drm/connector: Remove TV modes property Maxime Ripard
2022-07-29 20:06   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-29 20:16   ` kernel test robot
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 34/35] drm/modes: Introduce the tv_mode property as a command-line option Maxime Ripard
2022-08-12 13:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-16 13:51     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-20 20:18   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-24 15:45     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-24 17:08       ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-25 12:41       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-26  6:46         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-28 17:06           ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-07-29 16:35 ` [PATCH v1 35/35] drm/modes: Introduce more named modes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-21 16:16   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-25 14:22     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-08 13:03 ` [PATCH v1 00/35] drm: Analog TV Improvements Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-21 16:33 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-22  7:48   ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-22  8:57     ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-25 15:55       ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-25 16:17         ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-26  4:07           ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-26  8:39             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-26 14:56             ` Dom Cobley
2022-08-27 16:11               ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-30 21:31               ` kFYatek
2022-08-22 13:21     ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-25 16:21       ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-25 19:36         ` Noralf Trønnes

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