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From: Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@gmail.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	ML dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Gurchetan Singh <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: x86: honor guest memory type
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:21:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPaKu7Qjnur=ntTXmGn7L38UaCoNjf6avWBk7xTvO6eDkZbWFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200221155939.GG12665@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 7:59 AM Sean Christopherson
<sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 09:39:05PM -0800, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > From: Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 12:51 PM
> > > If you think it is the best for KVM to inspect hva to determine the memory
> > > type with page granularity, that is reasonable and should work for us too.
> > > The userspace can do something (e.g., add a GPU driver dependency to the
> > > hypervisor such that the dma-buf is imported as a GPU memory and mapped
> > > using
> > > vkMapMemory) or I can work with dma-buf maintainers to see if dma-buf's
> > > semantics can be changed.
> >
> > I think you need consider the live migration requirement as Paolo pointed out.
> > The migration thread needs to read/write the region, then it must use the
> > same type as GPU process and guest to read/write the region. In such case,
> > the hva mapped by Qemu should have the desired type as the guest. However,
> > adding GPU driver dependency to Qemu might trigger some concern. I'm not
> > sure whether there is generic mechanism though, to share dmabuf fd between GPU
> > process and Qemu while allowing Qemu to follow the desired type w/o using
> > vkMapMemory...
>
> Alternatively, KVM could make KVM_MEM_DMA and KVM_MEM_LOG_DIRTY_PAGES
> mutually exclusive, i.e. force a transition to WB memtype for the guest
> (with appropriate zapping) when migration is activated.  I think that
> would work?
Hm, virtio-gpu does not allow live migration when the 3D function
(virgl=on) is enabled.  This is the relevant code in qemu:

    if (virtio_gpu_virgl_enabled(g->conf)) {
        error_setg(&g->migration_blocker, "virgl is not yet migratable");

Although we (virtio-gpu and virglrenderer projects) plan to make host
GPU buffers available to the guest via memslots, those buffers should
be considered a part of the "GPU state".  The migration thread should
work with virglrenderer and let virglrenderer save/restore them, if
live migration is to be supported.

QEMU depends on GPU drivers already when configured with
--enable-virglrenderer.  There is vhost-user-gpu that can move the
dependency to a GPU process.  But there are still going to be cases
(e.g., nVidia's proprietary driver does not support dma-buf) where
QEMU cannot avoid GPU driver dependency.




> > Note this is orthogonal to whether introducing a new uapi or implicitly checking
> > hva to favor guest memory type. It's purely about Qemu itself. Ideally anyone
> > with the desire to access a dma-buf object should follow the expected semantics.
> > It's interesting that dma-buf sub-system doesn't provide a centralized
> > synchronization about memory type between multiple mmap paths.
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-21 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-13 21:30 [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: x86: honor guest memory type Chia-I Wu
2020-02-13 21:30 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] KVM: vmx: rewrite the comment in vmx_get_mt_mask Chia-I Wu
2020-02-14  9:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-13 21:30 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] RFC: KVM: add KVM_MEM_DMA Chia-I Wu
2020-02-13 21:30 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] RFC: KVM: x86: support KVM_CAP_DMA_MEM Chia-I Wu
2020-02-13 21:41 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: x86: honor guest memory type Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-13 22:18   ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-14 10:26     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-14 19:52       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-02-14 21:47         ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-14 21:56           ` Jim Mattson
2020-02-14 22:03             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-02-18 16:28               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-18 22:58                 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-02-19  9:52                 ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-19 19:36                   ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-20  2:04                     ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-20  2:38                       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-20 22:23                         ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-21  0:23                           ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-21  4:45                             ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-21  4:51                               ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-21  5:39                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-21 15:59                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-02-21 18:21                                     ` Chia-I Wu [this message]
2020-02-25  1:29                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-14 21:15       ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-19 10:00         ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-19 19:18           ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-20  2:13             ` Tian, Kevin
2020-02-20 23:02               ` Chia-I Wu
2020-02-24 10:57               ` Gerd Hoffmann

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