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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>
Cc: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	Intel GFX <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Maling list - DRI developers <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 08/21] drm/i915/gem: Disallow bonding of virtual engines
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:14:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIqjG9l30ZmuN1Wg@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOFGe96i7GPvQ8yDreTGF-K5pr_GRNkofQhH7W6Wxr-F8qmxrQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 01:17:27PM -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:02 PM Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:46:07PM -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:26 PM Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > Jumping on here mid-thread. For what is is worth to make execlists work
> > > > with the upcoming parallel submission extension I leveraged some of the
> > > > existing bonding code so I wouldn't be too eager to delete this code
> > > > until that lands.
> > >
> > > Mind being a bit more specific about that?  The motivation for this
> > > patch is that the current bonding handling and uAPI is, well, very odd
> > > and confusing IMO.  It doesn't let you create sets of bonded engines.
> > > Instead you create engines and then bond them together after the fact.
> > > I didn't want to blindly duplicate those oddities with the proto-ctx
> > > stuff unless they were useful.  With parallel submit, I would expect
> > > we want a more explicit API where you specify a set of engine
> > > class/instance pairs to bond together into a single engine similar to
> > > how the current balancing API works.
> > >
> > > Of course, that's all focused on the API and not the internals.  But,
> > > again, I'm not sure how we want things to look internally.  What we've
> > > got now doesn't seem great for the GuC submission model but I'm very
> > > much not the expert there.  I don't want to be working at cross
> > > purposes to you and I'm happy to leave bits if you think they're
> > > useful.  But I thought I was clearing things away so that you can put
> > > in what you actually want for GuC/parallel submit.
> > >
> >
> > Removing all the UAPI things are fine but I wouldn't delete some of the
> > internal stuff (e.g. intel_virtual_engine_attach_bond, bond
> > intel_context_ops, the hook for a submit fence, etc...) as that will
> > still likely be used for the new parallel submission interface with
> > execlists. As you say the new UAPI wont allow crazy configurations,
> > only simple ones.
> 
> I'm fine with leaving some of the internal bits for a little while if
> it makes pulling the GuC scheduler in easier.  I'm just a bit
> skeptical of why you'd care about SUBMIT_FENCE. :-)  Daniel, any
> thoughts?

Yeah I'm also wondering why we need this. Essentially your insight (and
Tony Ye from media team confirmed) is that media umd never uses bonded on
virtual engines.

So the only thing we need is the await_fence submit_fence logic to stall
the subsequent patches just long enough. I think that stays.

All the additional logic with the cmpxchg lockless trickery and all that
isn't needed, because we _never_ have to select an engine for bonded
submission: It's always the single one available.

This would mean that for execlist parallel submit we can apply a
limitation (beyond what GuC supports perhaps) and it's all ok. With that
everything except the submit fence await logic itself can go I think.

Also one for Matt: We decided to ZBB implementing parallel submit on
execlist, it's going to be just for GuC. At least until someone starts
screaming really loudly.

Cheers, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-23 22:31 [PATCH 00/21] drm/i915/gem: ioctl clean-ups Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 01/21] drm/i915: Drop I915_CONTEXT_PARAM_RINGSIZE Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27  9:32   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28  3:33     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 02/21] drm/i915: Drop I915_CONTEXT_PARAM_NO_ZEROMAP Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27  9:38   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 03/21] drm/i915/gem: Set the watchdog timeout directly in intel_context_set_gem Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27  9:42   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 15:55   ` [Intel-gfx] " Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-28 17:24     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29  8:04       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-29 14:54         ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 17:12           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 17:13             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 18:41               ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-30 11:18           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-30 15:35             ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 04/21] drm/i915/gem: Return void from context_apply_all Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27  9:42   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 05/21] drm/i915: Drop the CONTEXT_CLONE API Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27  9:49   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 17:38     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28 15:59   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 06/21] drm/i915: Implement SINGLE_TIMELINE with a syncobj (v3) Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27  9:55   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 15:49   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-28 17:26     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29  8:06       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-29 12:08         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 14:47           ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 07/21] drm/i915: Drop getparam support for I915_CONTEXT_PARAM_ENGINES Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27  9:58   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 08/21] drm/i915/gem: Disallow bonding of virtual engines Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-26 23:43   ` [PATCH 08/20] drm/i915/gem: Disallow bonding of virtual engines (v2) Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-27 13:58     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-27 13:51   ` [PATCH 08/21] drm/i915/gem: Disallow bonding of virtual engines Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28 10:13     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 17:18       ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28 17:18         ` [Intel-gfx] " Matthew Brost
2021-04-28 17:46           ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28 17:55             ` Matthew Brost
2021-04-28 18:17               ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 12:14                 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2021-04-30  4:03                   ` Matthew Brost
2021-04-30 10:11                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-01 17:17                       ` Matthew Brost
2021-05-04  7:36                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 18:58         ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 12:16           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 16:02             ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 17:14               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 15:51   ` [Intel-gfx] " Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-29 12:24     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 12:54       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-29 15:41         ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 09/21] drm/i915/gem: Disallow creating contexts with too many engines Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28 10:16   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 10:42     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-28 14:02       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 14:26         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-28 17:09           ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29  8:01             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-29 19:16               ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-30 11:40                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-30 15:54                   ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 10/21] drm/i915/request: Remove the hook from await_execution Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-26 23:44   ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 11/21] drm/i915: Stop manually RCU banging in reset_stats_ioctl Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28 10:27   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-28 18:22     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 12:22       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 12/21] drm/i915/gem: Add a separate validate_priority helper Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-28 14:37   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 13/21] drm/i915/gem: Add an intermediate proto_context struct Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 13:02   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 16:44     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 14/21] drm/i915/gem: Return an error ptr from context_lookup Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 13:27   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 15:29     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 17:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 15/21] drm/i915/gt: Drop i915_address_space::file Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 12:37   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 15:26     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 16/21] drm/i915/gem: Delay context creation Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-24  3:21   ` [Intel-gfx] " kernel test robot
2021-04-24  3:24   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-29 15:51   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 18:16     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 18:56       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 19:01         ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 19:07           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 21:35             ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-30  6:53               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 11:58                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-30 12:30                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 12:44                     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-30 13:07                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 13:15                         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-04-30 16:27                 ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-30 16:33                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 16:57                     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-30 17:08                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 17/21] drm/i915/gem: Don't allow changing the VM on running contexts Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 18/21] drm/i915/gem: Don't allow changing the engine set " Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 17:21   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 19/21] drm/i915/selftests: Take a VM in kernel_context() Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 20/21] i915/gem/selftests: Assign the VM at context creation in igt_shared_ctx_exec Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 17:19   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-23 22:31 ` [PATCH 21/21] drm/i915/gem: Roll all of context creation together Jason Ekstrand
2021-04-29 17:25   ` Daniel Vetter

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