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From: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
	"Paul Kocialkowski" <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
Cc: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Stone <daniels@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 18/20] lib: image-formats: Add v4l2 formats support
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:14:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac5329d77f83af2804c240ebe479ec323b60aec3.camel@ndufresne.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190321163532.GG3888@intel.com>

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Le jeudi 21 mars 2019 à 18:35 +0200, Ville Syrjälä a écrit :
> > I'm not sure what it's worth, but there is a "pixel format guide"
> > project that is all about matching formats from one API to another: 
> > https://afrantzis.com/pixel-format-guide/ (and it has an associated
> > tool too).
> > 
> > On the page about DRM, it seems that they got the word that DRM formats
> > are the native pixel order in little-endian systems:
> > https://afrantzis.com/pixel-format-guide/drm.html
> 
> Looks consistent with the official word in drm_fourcc.h.
> 
> $ python3 -m pfg find-compatible V4L2_PIX_FMT_XBGR32 drm
> Format: V4L2_PIX_FMT_XBGR32
> Is compatible on all systems with:
>         DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888
> Is compatible on little-endian systems with:
> Is compatible on big-endian systems with:
> 
> $ python3 -m pfg find-compatible DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 v4l2
> Format: DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888
> Is compatible on all systems with:
>         V4L2_PIX_FMT_XBGR32
> Is compatible on little-endian systems with:
> Is compatible on big-endian systems with:
> 
> Even works both ways :)
> 
> > Perhaps some drivers have been abusing the format definitions, leading
> > to the inconsistencies that Nicolas could witness?
> 
> That is quite possible, perhaps even likely. No one really
> seems interested in making sure big endian systems actually
> work properly. I believe the usual approach is to hack
> around semi-rnadomly until the correct colors accidentally
> appear on the screen.

We did not hack around randomly. The code in GStreamer is exactly what
the DRM and Wayland dev told us to do (they provided the initial
patches to make it work). These are initially patches from Intel for
what it's worth (see the wlvideoformat.c header [0]). Even though I
just notice that in this file, it seems that we ended up with a
different mapping order for WL and DRM format in 24bit RGB (no
padding), clearly is a bug. That being said, there is no logical
meaning for little endian 24bit RGB, you can't load a pixel on CPU in a
single op. Just saying since I would not know which one of the two
mapping here is right. I would probably have to go testing what DRM
drivers do, which may not mean anything. I would also ask and get
contradictory answers.

I have never myself tested these on big endian drivers though, as you
say, nobody seems to care about graphics on those anymore. So the easy
statement is to say they are little endian, like you just did, and
ignore the legacy, but there is some catch. YUV formats has been added
without applying this rules. So V4L2 YUYV match YUYV in DRM format name
instead of little endian UYVY. (at least 4 tested drivers implements it
this way). Same for NV12, for which little endian CPU representation
would swap the UV paid on a 16bit word.

To me, all the YUV stuff is the right way, because this is what the
rest of the world is doing, it's not ambiguous.

[0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad/blob/master/ext/wayland/wlvideoformat.c#L86



Nicolas

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-21 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-19 21:57 [RFC PATCH 00/20] drm: Split out the formats API and move it to a common place Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 01/20] drm: Remove users of drm_format_num_planes Maxime Ripard
2019-03-20 14:16   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-04-02  9:43   ` Emil Velikov
2019-04-02 14:51     ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-04 16:24       ` Emil Velikov
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 02/20] drm: Remove users of drm_format_(horz|vert)_chroma_subsampling Maxime Ripard
2019-03-20 14:19   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 03/20] drm/fourcc: Pass the format_info pointer to drm_format_plane_cpp Maxime Ripard
2019-03-20 14:24   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-03-21 10:13     ` Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 04/20] drm/fourcc: Pass the format_info pointer to drm_format_plane_width/height Maxime Ripard
2019-03-20 14:26   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 05/20] drm: Replace instances of drm_format_info by drm_get_format_info Maxime Ripard
2019-03-20 14:27   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 06/20] lib: Add video format information library Maxime Ripard
2019-03-20 13:39   ` Boris Brezillon
2019-03-21  8:20     ` Maxime Ripard
2019-03-21  8:40       ` Boris Brezillon
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 07/20] drm/fb: Move from drm_format_info to image_format_info Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 08/20] drm/malidp: Convert to generic image format library Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 09/20] drm/client: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 10/20] drm/exynos: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 11/20] drm/i915: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 12/20] drm/ipuv3: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 13/20] drm/msm: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 14/20] drm/omap: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 15/20] drm/rockchip: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 16/20] drm/tegra: " Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 17/20] drm/fourcc: Remove old DRM format API Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 18/20] lib: image-formats: Add v4l2 formats support Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 23:29   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-03-20 14:27     ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-20 15:51       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-03-20 16:09         ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-20 16:30           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-03-20 16:41             ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-20 18:27               ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-03-20 18:39                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-21 16:04                   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-03-21 16:35                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-21 19:14                       ` Nicolas Dufresne [this message]
2019-03-21 21:44                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-22 18:24                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-03-22 18:44                             ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-22 19:25                               ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-03-22 14:42                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2019-03-22 18:11                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-03-20 18:15     ` Brian Starkey
2019-03-21 15:47       ` Maxime Ripard
2019-03-22 19:55   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-04-01 14:44     ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-11  7:24       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-04-11  7:38     ` Hans Verkuil
2019-04-11 15:55       ` Maxime Ripard
2019-04-11  7:12   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-04-11  7:15     ` Hans Verkuil
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 19/20] lib: image-formats: Add more functions Maxime Ripard
2019-03-19 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 20/20] media: sun6i: Convert to the image format API Maxime Ripard

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