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From: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
	jikos@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jelle van der Waa <jelle@vdwaa.nl>,
	Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Gregor Riepl <onitake@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v3
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 14:14:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adbfdf6c-fb59-4fae-a472-17b04dd8a3f6@tuxedocomputers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <825129ea-d389-4c6c-8a23-39f05572e4b4@redhat.com>

Hi,

Thanks everyone for the exhaustive feedback. And at least this thread is a good 
comprehesive reference for the future ^^.

To recap the hopefully final UAPI for complex RGB lighting devices:

- By default there is a singular /sys/class/leds/* entry that treats the device 
as if it was a single zone RGB keyboard backlight with no special effects.

- There is an accompanying misc device with the sysfs attributes "name", 
"device_type",  "firmware_version_string", "serial_number" for device 
identification and "use_leds_uapi" that defaults to 1.

     - If set to 0 the /sys/class/leds/* entry disappears. The driver should 
keep the last state the backlight was in active if possible.

     - If set 1 it appears again. The driver should bring it back to a static 1 
zone setting while avoiding flicker if possible.

- If the device is not controllable by for example hidraw, the misc device might 
also implement additional ioctls or sysfs attributes to allow a more complex low 
level control for the keyboard backlight. This is will be a highly vendor 
specific UAPI.

     - The actual logic interacting with this low level UAPI is implemented by a 
userspace driver

Implementation wise: For the creation of the misc device with the use_leds_uapi 
switch a helper function/macro might be useful? Wonder if it should go into 
leds.h, led-class-multicolor.h, or a new header file?

- Out of my head it would look something like this:

led_classdev_add_optional_misc_control(
     struct led_classdev *led_cdev,
     char* name,
     char* device_type,
     char* firmware_version_string,
     char* serial_number,
     void (*deregister_led)(struct led_classdev *led_cdev),
     void (*reregister_led)(struct led_classdev *led_cdev))

Let me know your thoughts and hopefully I can start implementing it soon for one 
of our devices.

Kind regards,

Werner Sembach


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-22 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]         ` <ZSk16iTBmZ2fLHZ0@duo.ucw.cz>
2023-10-13 14:54           ` Implement per-key keyboard backlight as auxdisplay? Werner Sembach
2023-10-13 19:56             ` Pavel Machek
2023-10-13 20:03               ` Pavel Machek
2023-10-16 10:57               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-23 11:40                 ` Jani Nikula
2023-10-23 11:44                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-11-20 20:53                     ` Pavel Machek
2023-11-20 20:52                   ` Pavel Machek
2023-11-21 11:33                     ` Werner Sembach
2023-11-21 12:20                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-11-21 13:29                         ` Werner Sembach
2023-11-22 18:34                           ` Hans de Goede
2023-11-27 10:59                             ` Werner Sembach
2023-12-29 19:13                               ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-17 15:26                               ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-17 16:50                               ` Userspace API for per key backlight for non HID (no hidraw) keyboards Hans de Goede
2024-01-17 19:03                                 ` Armin Wolf
2024-01-18  0:58                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-18 17:45                               ` Implement per-key keyboard backlight as auxdisplay? Pavel Machek
2024-01-18 22:32                                 ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19  8:44                                 ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-19 10:51                                   ` Jani Nikula
2024-01-19 16:06                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 18:33                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-01-19 22:14                                       ` Pavel Machek
2024-01-23 16:51                                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 15:19                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 16:04                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-29 13:24                                     ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-30 11:12                                       ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-30 17:10                                         ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-30 18:01                                           ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-30 18:09                                           ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-30 18:35                                             ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-30 19:08                                               ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-30 19:46                                                 ` Hans de Goede
2024-01-31 11:41                                                   ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux Werner Sembach
2024-01-31 15:52                                                     ` Roderick Colenbrander
2024-02-21 11:12                                                     ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v2 Werner Sembach
2024-02-21 22:17                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-22  9:04                                                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-02-22 17:38                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-23  8:53                                                             ` Pekka Paalanen
2024-02-23  9:21                                                             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2024-02-22 10:46                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2024-02-22 11:38                                                           ` Gregor Riepl
2024-02-22 12:39                                                             ` Hans de Goede
2024-02-22 13:14                                                               ` Werner Sembach [this message]
2024-03-18 11:11                                                                 ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v3 Hans de Goede
2024-03-19 15:18                                                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-25 14:18                                                                     ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-25 17:01                                                                       ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-20 11:16                                                                 ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-20 11:33                                                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-20 18:45                                                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-25 14:25                                                                   ` In kernel virtual HID devices (was Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v3) Hans de Goede
2024-03-25 15:56                                                                     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-03-25 16:48                                                                       ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-25 18:30                                                                         ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-26  7:57                                                                           ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-26 15:39                                                                             ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-03-26 16:57                                                                               ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-27 11:03                                                                                 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2024-03-28 23:52                                                                                   ` Werner Sembach
2024-03-27 11:01                                                                               ` Hans de Goede
2024-03-25 18:38                                                                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-09 13:33                                                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-02-22 17:42                                                               ` Future handling of complex RGB devices on Linux v2 Pavel Machek
2024-02-22 17:52                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-22 17:23                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2024-02-23  8:33                                                         ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 20:15                                   ` Implement per-key keyboard backlight as auxdisplay? Pavel Machek
2024-01-19 20:22                                     ` Werner Sembach
2024-01-19 20:32                                       ` Pavel Machek
2024-01-29 13:24                                     ` Hans de Goede

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