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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: dwarves@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Subject: Re: pahole and libdwarves linking/versioning issues
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:45:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201113114525.GB394182@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzYc6sHzGW-mmHSaTgG4zOc8S9Dxegnufbc+myr7wTmRcw@mail.gmail.com>

Em Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 04:14:16PM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> Hey Arnaldo,

Hi Andrii,
 
> We use pahole pretty extensively here at Facebook, as you might
> imagine, given it's a required tool to compile Linux kernel with BTF.
 
> There are a few problems we periodically run into, all of which seems
> to be related to the fact that pahole is just a thin wrapper binary on
> top of libdwarves shared library.
 
> One very common problem is when we upgrade the dwarves package from
> one minor version to another one. Typically people would do
 
> yum upgrade dwarves
 
> And that would succeed to update the dwarves package (say 1.13 to
> 1.16). But when you run
 
> pahole --version
 
> You'll still see 1.13 (and still have 1.13 functionality, of
> course)... So what happens is that pahole *the binary* was updated,
> but libdwarves1 package, which is a dependency of dwarves package,
> wasn't updated. And the actual version string all pretty much all of
> the functionality is coming from libdwarves1. So users have to
 
> yum upgrade libdwarves1
 
> explicitly. Which is, of course, not an obvious and frustrating experience.
 
> Also, whenever pahole is using some new API from libdwarves and
> libdwarves is outdated, that results in spectacular failure during
> dynamic linking time. Which makes sense because libdwarves doesn't
> maintain API stability per se and is supposed to match 1:1 w/ pahole
> version. But it all causes real logistics issues.
 
> So I have a few questions:
> 1. Is there anything on the RPM spec side that could be done to
> trigger libdwarves1 update when dwarves is updated and keep them in
> sync down to the minor version?

So, there is this in the reference .spec file that is in pahole's git
repo:

[acme@five pahole]$ egrep '^(Requires|Name)' rpm/SPECS/dwarves.spec
Name: dwarves
Requires: %{libname}%{libver} = %{version}-%{release}
Requires: %{libname}%{libver} = %{version}-%{release}
[acme@five pahole]$ egrep '^(Requires|Name|%package)' rpm/SPECS/dwarves.spec
Name: dwarves
Requires: %{libname}%{libver} = %{version}-%{release}
%package -n %{libname}%{libver}
%package -n %{libname}%{libver}-devel
Requires: %{libname}%{libver} = %{version}-%{release}
[acme@five pahole]$

Someone else also reported this recently... Fedora has:

[acme@five pahole]$ rpm -qR dwarves | grep ^libdwarves1
libdwarves1 = 1.17-4.fc33
[acme@five pahole]$

So it includes both ${version} and %{release}, which should get it in
lockstep.

Having said that I'm not aware of anything using libdwarves and it was
intended just to share those among the tools that comes in the
'dwarves' package, so I should have really made it internal, installed
in /usr/libexec/dwarves/ :-\

> 2. If not, can we add an option of statically linking libdwarves into
> pahole and other tools? That would eliminate all the problems
> altogether at the expense of a pretty negligible slight increase in
> the binary sizes.

Yeah, this looks like the way to proceed, i.e. we statically link it
while keeping the .so around in case someone uses it, while adding some
warning that that mode is deprecated and is going away.

- Arnaldo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-13 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-11  0:14 pahole and libdwarves linking/versioning issues Andrii Nakryiko
2020-11-11  0:28 ` Arnaldo
2020-11-13 11:45 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2020-12-04 23:11   ` Andrii Nakryiko

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