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From: Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: dwarves@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH dwarves] libbpf: allow to use packaged version
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 15:40:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3a211f0bef8aed1c097f13f0a178f838dc5f520.camel@debian.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210115152915.GA457607@kernel.org>

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On Fri, 2021-01-15 at 12:29 -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 12:23:25PM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:30 PM Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2021-01-03 at 11:10 -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 10:25 AM Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Add a new CMake option, LIBBPF_EMBEDDED, to switch between the
> > > > > embedded version and the system version (searched via pkg-config)
> > > > > of libbpf. Set the system version as the default.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > There's been a lot of arguments about libbpf as a submodule, so I
> > > > don't think we need to go about pros and cons again, but I just
> > > > wanted
> > > > to cast my vote against doing this at all. Having pahole built with
> > > > libbpf statically (only) was a great thing for me so far with
> > > > iterating quickly and adopting new APIs without overcomplicating the
> > > > source code with all sorts of feature detection code. Without it,
> > > > adopting libbpf's faster string deduplication, BTF writing APIs,
> > > > module/split BTFs, etc, etc, would be much bigger PITA and/or would
> > > > prolong such changes. To the point that I personally wouldn't bother
> > > > with some of them at all. Distro maintainers obviously don't care
> > > > about such inconveniences for developers, but it's a real factor in
> > > > determining what kind of functionality is implemented in pahole, so I
> > > > hope Arnaldo won't dismiss this without thinking about this
> > > > carefully.
> 
> Hey, having tools/perf/ and tools/lib/perf, tools/lib/bpf, etc all in
> one place is really nice :-)
> 
> > > You know very well that it's not about caring or not caring :-) There
> > > are simply conflicting interests, and both sides are valid.
>  
> > I didn't mean it in a negative way. Different priorities and interests
> > is a better way to put it, sure.
> 
> I think the default should be submodules as we're still very much in
> flux, adding new features, etc.
> 
> Disto maintainers can make sure they know what they're doing when making
> tools use libbpf as a separate package.

Sure, v3 has the option as default-disabled already, not a problem at
all.

> I'm coming back from vacation, so trying to zip thru a lot of emails, so
> just thought about sharing my first reaction to this in a quick way.

No worries and no rush.

-- 
Kind regards,
Luca Boccassi

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-15 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-02 18:22 [PATCH dwarves] libbpf: allow to use packaged version Luca Boccassi
2021-01-03 19:10 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-01-03 21:30   ` Luca Boccassi
2021-01-04 20:23     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-01-04 22:17       ` Luca Boccassi
2021-01-21 13:29         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-01-21 20:02           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-01-21 20:33             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-01-21 20:34             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-01-21 21:19               ` Luca Boccassi
2021-01-15 15:29       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-01-15 15:40         ` Luca Boccassi [this message]
2021-06-09 16:07           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-06-09 16:11             ` Luca Boccassi
2021-01-03 21:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2] " Luca Boccassi
2021-01-04 22:16   ` [PATCH dwarves v3] " Luca Boccassi
2021-01-13 11:18     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-03-30  4:47     ` Dominique Martinet
2021-03-30 10:50       ` Luca Boccassi
2021-03-30 11:06         ` Luca Boccassi
2021-03-30 11:45           ` Dominique Martinet
2021-03-30 15:12       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-03-31  1:05         ` Dominique Martinet
2021-04-13 13:42           ` Luca Boccassi
2021-05-18 14:07             ` Luca Boccassi
2021-06-09  4:10               ` Dominique Martinet
2021-06-09 16:25     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-06-09 16:38       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-06-09 16:43         ` Luca Boccassi

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