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From: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: ehabkost@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/18] APIC ID fixes for AMD EPYC CPU models
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 13:08:58 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fec6193d-09f1-5609-28fb-d10122053610@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200204090230.28f31a87@redhat.com>



On 2/4/20 2:02 AM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 13:31:29 -0600
> Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/3/20 8:59 AM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 18:36:54 -0600
>>> Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> This series fixes APIC ID encoding problems on AMD EPYC CPUs.
>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.redhat.com%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D1728166&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7Cbbd1693802184161c8c308d7a9489ee9%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637164001686545394&amp;sdata=UtYAoTk4RfZZ1VfaP%2FhcYrCSNTcubEB7cB%2BoYlRLfhc%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> Currently, the APIC ID is decoded based on the sequence
>>>> sockets->dies->cores->threads. This works for most standard AMD and other
>>>> vendors' configurations, but this decoding sequence does not follow that of
>>>> AMD's APIC ID enumeration strictly. In some cases this can cause CPU topology
>>>> inconsistency.  When booting a guest VM, the kernel tries to validate the
>>>> topology, and finds it inconsistent with the enumeration of EPYC cpu models.
>>>>
>>>> To fix the problem we need to build the topology as per the Processor
>>>> Programming Reference (PPR) for AMD Family 17h Model 01h, Revision B1
>>>> Processors. It is available at https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amd.com%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FTechDocs%2F55570-B1_PUB.zip&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7Cbbd1693802184161c8c308d7a9489ee9%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637164001686555390&amp;sdata=oHONRiXtpstKqwrxyzqR20bYDDr3zvmwq91a%2Br6iDqc%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> Here is the text from the PPR.
>>>> Operating systems are expected to use Core::X86::Cpuid::SizeId[ApicIdSize], the
>>>> number of least significant bits in the Initial APIC ID that indicate core ID
>>>> within a processor, in constructing per-core CPUID masks.
>>>> Core::X86::Cpuid::SizeId[ApicIdSize] determines the maximum number of cores
>>>> (MNC) that the processor could theoretically support, not the actual number of
>>>> cores that are actually implemented or enabled on the processor, as indicated
>>>> by Core::X86::Cpuid::SizeId[NC].
>>>> Each Core::X86::Apic::ApicId[ApicId] register is preset as follows:
>>>> • ApicId[6] = Socket ID.
>>>> • ApicId[5:4] = Node ID.
>>>> • ApicId[3] = Logical CCX L3 complex ID
>>>> • ApicId[2:0]= (SMT) ? {LogicalCoreID[1:0],ThreadId} : {1'b0,LogicalCoreID[1:0]}  
>>>
>>>
>>> After checking out all patches and some pondering, used here approach
>>> looks to me too intrusive for the task at hand especially where it
>>> comes to generic code.
>>>
>>> (Ignore till ==== to see suggestion how to simplify without reading
>>> reasoning behind it first)
>>>
>>> Lets look for a way to simplify it a little bit.
>>>
>>> So problem we are trying to solve,
>>>  1: calculate APIC IDs based on cpu type (to e more specific: for EPYC based CPUs)
>>>  2: it depends on knowing total number of numa nodes.
>>>
>>> Externally workflow looks like following:
>>>   1. user provides -smp x,sockets,cores,...,maxcpus
>>>       that's used by possible_cpu_arch_ids() singleton to build list of
>>>       possible CPUs (which is available to user via command 'hotpluggable-cpus')
>>>
>>>       Hook could be called very early and possible_cpus data might be
>>>       not complete. It builds a list of possible CPUs which user could
>>>       modify later.
>>>
>>>   2.1 user uses "-numa cpu,node-id=x,..." or legacy "-numa node,node_id=x,cpus="
>>>       options to assign cpus to nodes, which is one way or another calling
>>>       machine_set_cpu_numa_node(). The later updates 'possible_cpus' list
>>>       with node information. It happens early when total number of nodes
>>>       is not available.
>>>
>>>   2.2 user does not provide explicit node mappings for CPUs.
>>>       QEMU steps in and assigns possible cpus to nodes in machine_numa_finish_cpu_init()
>>>       (using the same machine_set_cpu_numa_node()) right before calling boards
>>>       specific machine init(). At that time total number of nodes is known.
>>>
>>> In 1 -- 2.1 cases, 'arch_id' in 'possible_cpus' list doesn't have to be defined before
>>> boards init() is run.

In case of 2.1, we need to have the arch_id already generated. This is
done inside possible_cpu_arch_ids. The arch_id is used by
machine_set_cpu_numa_node to assign the cpus to correct numa node.

If we want to move the arch_id generation into board init(), then we need
to save the cpu indexes belonging to each node somewhere.

>>>
>>> In 2.2 case it calls get_default_cpu_node_id() -> x86_get_default_cpu_node_id()
>>> which uses arch_id calculate numa node.
>>> But then question is: does it have to use APIC id or could it infer 'pkg_id',
>>> it's after, from ms->possible_cpus->cpus[i].props data?  
>>
>> Not sure if I got the question right. In this case because the numa
>> information is not provided all the cpus are assigned to only one node.
>> The apic id is used here to get the correct pkg_id.
> 
> apicid was composed from socket/core/thread[/die] tuple which cpus[i].props is.
> 
> Question is if we can compose only pkg_id based on the same data without
> converting it to apicid and then "reverse engineering" it back
> original data?

Yes. It is possible.

> 
> Or more direct question: is socket-id the same as pkg_id?

Yes. Socket_id and pkg_id is same.

> 
> 
>>
>>>   
>>> With that out of the way APIC ID will be used only during board's init(),
>>> so board could update possible_cpus with valid APIC IDs at the start of
>>> x86_cpus_init().
>>>
>>> ====
>>> in nutshell it would be much easier to do following:
>>>
>>>  1. make x86_get_default_cpu_node_id() APIC ID in-depended or
>>>     if impossible as alternative recompute APIC IDs there if cpu
>>>     type is EPYC based (since number of nodes is already known)
>>>  2. recompute APIC IDs in x86_cpus_init() if cpu type is EPYC based
>>>
>>> this way one doesn't need to touch generic numa code, introduce
>>> x86 specific init_apicid_fn() hook into generic code and keep
>>> x86/EPYC nuances contained within x86 code only.  
>>
>> I was kind of already working in the similar direction in v4.
>> 1. We already have split the numa initialization in patch #12(Split the
>> numa initialization). This way we know exactly how many numa nodes are
>> there before hand.
> 
> I suggest to drop that patch, It's the one that touches generic numa
> code and adding more legacy based extensions like cpu_indexes.
> Which I'd like to get rid of to begin with, so only -numa cpu is left.
> 
> I think it's not necessary to touch numa code at all for apicid generation
> purpose, as I tried to explain above. We should be able to keep
> this x86 only business.

This is going to be difficult without touching the generic numa code.

> 
>> 2. Planning to remove init_apicid_fn
>> 3. Insert the handlers inside X86CPUDefinition.
> what handlers do you mean?

Apicid generation logic can be separated into 3 types of handlers.
x86_apicid_from_cpu_idx: Generate apicid from cpu index.
x86_topo_ids_from_apicid: Generate topo ids from apic id.
x86_apicid_from_topo_ids: Generate apicid from topo ids.

We should be able to generate one id from other(you can see topology.h).

X86CPUDefinition will have the handlers specific to each model like the
way we have features now. The above 3 handlers will be used as default
handler.


The EPYC model will have its corresponding handlers.

x86_apicid_from_cpu_idx_epyc
x86_topo_ids_from_apicid_epyc
x86_apicid_from_topo_ids_epyc.

> 
>> 4. EPYC model will have its own apid id handlers. Everything else will be
>> initialized with a default handlers(current default handler).
>> 5. The function pc_possible_cpu_arch_ids will load the model definition
>> and initialize the PCMachineState data structure with the model specific
>> handlers.
> I'm not sure what do you mean here.

PCMachineState will have the function pointers to the above handlers.
I was going to load the correct handler based on the mode type.

>  
>> Does that sound similar to what you are thinking. Thoughts?
> If you have something to share and can push it on github,
> I can look at, whether it has design issues to spare you a round trip on a list.
> (it won't be proper review but at least I can help to pinpoint most problematic parts)
> 
My code for the current approach is kind of ready(yet to be tested). I can
send it as v3.1 if you want to look. Or we can wait for our discussion to
settle. I will post it after our discussion.


There is one more problem we need to address. I was going to address later
in v4 or v5.

This works
-numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-3 -numa node,nodeid=1,cpus=4-7

This does not work
-numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-5 -numa node,nodeid=1,cpus=6-7

This requires the generic code to pass the node information to the x86
code which requires some handler changes. I was thinking my code will
simplify the changes to address this issue.

>>
>>>   
>>>> v3:
>>>>   1. Consolidated the topology information in structure X86CPUTopoInfo.
>>>>   2. Changed the ccx_id to llc_id as commented by upstream.
>>>>   3. Generalized the apic id decoding. It is mostly similar to current apic id
>>>>      except that it adds new field llc_id when numa configured. Removes all the
>>>>      hardcoded values.
>>>>   4. Removed the earlier parse_numa split. And moved the numa node initialization
>>>>      inside the numa_complete_configuration. This is bit cleaner as commented by 
>>>>      Eduardo.
>>>>   5. Added new function init_apicid_fn inside machine_class structure. This
>>>>      will be used to update the apic id handler specific to cpu model.
>>>>   6. Updated the cpuid unit tests.
>>>>   7. TODO : Need to figure out how to dynamically update the handlers using cpu models.
>>>>      I might some guidance on that.
>>>>
>>>> v2:
>>>>   https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flore.kernel.org%2Fqemu-devel%2F156779689013.21957.1631551572950676212.stgit%40localhost.localdomain%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7Cbbd1693802184161c8c308d7a9489ee9%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637164001686555390&amp;sdata=phJxrK4AExmcfBfxcN8Ngtnuwv1vLR%2BW4PnqjUSPQfI%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>   1. Introduced the new property epyc to enable new epyc mode.
>>>>   2. Separated the epyc mode and non epyc mode function.
>>>>   3. Introduced function pointers in PCMachineState to handle the
>>>>      differences.
>>>>   4. Mildly tested different combinations to make things are working as expected.
>>>>   5. TODO : Setting the epyc feature bit needs to be worked out. This feature is
>>>>      supported only on AMD EPYC models. I may need some guidance on that.
>>>>
>>>> v1:
>>>>   https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flore.kernel.org%2Fqemu-devel%2F20190731232032.51786-1-babu.moger%40amd.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7Cbbd1693802184161c8c308d7a9489ee9%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637164001686555390&amp;sdata=P1Ghnsypj8uSuGiv9XW38nytrHXAIeOGumsbbAEUjCU%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Babu Moger (18):
>>>>       hw/i386: Rename X86CPUTopoInfo structure to X86CPUTopoIDs
>>>>       hw/i386: Introduce X86CPUTopoInfo to contain topology info
>>>>       hw/i386: Consolidate topology functions
>>>>       hw/i386: Introduce initialize_topo_info to initialize X86CPUTopoInfo
>>>>       machine: Add SMP Sockets in CpuTopology
>>>>       hw/core: Add core complex id in X86CPU topology
>>>>       machine: Add a new function init_apicid_fn in MachineClass
>>>>       hw/i386: Update structures for nodes_per_pkg
>>>>       i386: Add CPUX86Family type in CPUX86State
>>>>       hw/386: Add EPYC mode topology decoding functions
>>>>       i386: Cleanup and use the EPYC mode topology functions
>>>>       numa: Split the numa initialization
>>>>       hw/i386: Introduce apicid_from_cpu_idx in PCMachineState
>>>>       hw/i386: Introduce topo_ids_from_apicid handler PCMachineState
>>>>       hw/i386: Introduce apic_id_from_topo_ids handler in PCMachineState
>>>>       hw/i386: Introduce EPYC mode function handlers
>>>>       i386: Fix pkg_id offset for epyc mode
>>>>       tests: Update the Unit tests
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  hw/core/machine-hmp-cmds.c |    3 +
>>>>  hw/core/machine.c          |   14 +++
>>>>  hw/core/numa.c             |   62 +++++++++----
>>>>  hw/i386/pc.c               |  132 +++++++++++++++++++---------
>>>>  include/hw/boards.h        |    3 +
>>>>  include/hw/i386/pc.h       |    9 ++
>>>>  include/hw/i386/topology.h |  209 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
>>>>  include/sysemu/numa.h      |    5 +
>>>>  qapi/machine.json          |    7 +
>>>>  target/i386/cpu.c          |  196 ++++++++++++-----------------------------
>>>>  target/i386/cpu.h          |    9 ++
>>>>  tests/test-x86-cpuid.c     |  115 ++++++++++++++----------
>>>>  vl.c                       |    4 +
>>>>  13 files changed, 455 insertions(+), 313 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>  
>>>   
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-04 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-04  0:36 [PATCH v3 00/18] APIC ID fixes for AMD EPYC CPU models Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] hw/i386: Rename X86CPUTopoInfo structure to X86CPUTopoIDs Babu Moger
2020-02-03 15:08   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-03 18:25     ` Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] hw/i386: Introduce X86CPUTopoInfo to contain topology info Babu Moger
2020-01-28 15:44   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] hw/i386: Consolidate topology functions Babu Moger
2020-01-28 15:46   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] hw/i386: Introduce initialize_topo_info to initialize X86CPUTopoInfo Babu Moger
2020-01-28 15:49   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-28 16:42     ` Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] machine: Add SMP Sockets in CpuTopology Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] hw/core: Add core complex id in X86CPU topology Babu Moger
2020-01-28 16:27   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-28 16:44     ` Babu Moger
2020-01-28 16:31   ` Eric Blake
2020-01-28 16:44     ` Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] machine: Add a new function init_apicid_fn in MachineClass Babu Moger
2020-01-28 16:29   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-28 19:45     ` Babu Moger
2020-01-28 20:12       ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-01-29  9:14       ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-29 16:17         ` Babu Moger
2020-02-03 15:17           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-03 21:49             ` Babu Moger
2020-02-04  7:38               ` Igor Mammedov
2020-01-29 16:32         ` Babu Moger
2020-01-29 16:51           ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-01-29 17:05             ` Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] hw/i386: Update structures for nodes_per_pkg Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] i386: Add CPUX86Family type in CPUX86State Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] hw/386: Add EPYC mode topology decoding functions Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] i386: Cleanup and use the EPYC mode topology functions Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] numa: Split the numa initialization Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] hw/i386: Introduce apicid_from_cpu_idx in PCMachineState Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] hw/i386: Introduce topo_ids_from_apicid handler PCMachineState Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] hw/i386: Introduce apic_id_from_topo_ids handler in PCMachineState Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] hw/i386: Introduce EPYC mode function handlers Babu Moger
2020-01-28 20:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-01-28 21:48     ` Babu Moger
2020-01-29 16:41       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-12-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] i386: Fix pkg_id offset for epyc mode Babu Moger
2019-12-04  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] tests: Update the Unit tests Babu Moger
2020-02-03 14:59 ` [PATCH v3 00/18] APIC ID fixes for AMD EPYC CPU models Igor Mammedov
2020-02-03 19:31   ` Babu Moger
2020-02-04  8:02     ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-04 19:08       ` Babu Moger [this message]
2020-02-05  9:38         ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-05 16:10           ` Babu Moger
2020-02-05 16:56             ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-05 19:07               ` Babu Moger
2020-02-06 13:08                 ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-06 15:32                   ` Babu Moger

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