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From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>
Cc: linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	fstests@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	hare@suse.de, dgilbert@interlog.com, jeyu@kernel.org,
	osandov@fb.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] libkmod-module: add support for a patient module removal option
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 18:38:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVJyIGXN/TR8zdU9@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210923085156.scmf5wxr2phc356b@ldmartin-desk2>

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 01:51:56AM -0700, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 10:16:02PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> The story was not kind like that. It wasn't removed "in favor for a 10
> second sleep" in the sense that the sleep would replace the wait.
> 
> It was actually for "this wait logic in the kernel is complex and
> buggy, let's try to remove it". So we decided to deprecate it and add
> a sleep rmmod to see if anyone complained. 1 year later of no complains
> we removed it from kernel. This was all after noticing we had never
> implemented the wait logic in modprobe - it was only done in rmmod.

OK fixed the commit log thanks!

> > --- a/libkmod/libkmod-module.c
> > +++ b/libkmod/libkmod-module.c
> > @@ -30,6 +30,9 @@
> > #include <stdlib.h>
> > #include <string.h>
> > #include <unistd.h>
> > +#include <poll.h>
> > +#include <time.h>
> > +#include <math.h>
> > #include <sys/mman.h>
> > #include <sys/stat.h>
> > #include <sys/syscall.h>
> > @@ -802,6 +805,143 @@ KMOD_EXPORT int kmod_module_remove_module(struct kmod_module *mod,
> > 	return err;
> > }
> > 
> > +static int timespec_to_ms(struct timespec *t)
> > +{
> > +	return (t->tv_sec * 1000) + lround(t->tv_nsec / 1000000);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static int time_delta_ms(struct timespec *before, struct timespec *after)
> > +{
> > +	if (!before || !after)
> > +		return 0;
> > +	return timespec_to_ms(after) - timespec_to_ms(before);
> > +}
> 
> we have a similar thing in util.[ch]

Alright, this OK?

diff --git a/shared/util.c b/shared/util.c
index b487b5f..b911e63 100644
--- a/shared/util.c
+++ b/shared/util.c
@@ -466,6 +466,19 @@ unsigned long long ts_usec(const struct timespec *ts)
 	       (unsigned long long) ts->tv_nsec / NSEC_PER_USEC;
 }
 
+unsigned long long ts_msec(const struct timespec *ts)
+{
+	return ts_usec(ts) * 1000;
+}
+
+unsigned long long ts_delta_ms(const struct timespec *before,
+			       const struct timespec *after)
+{
+	if (!before || !after)
+		return 0;
+	return ts_msec(after) - ts_msec(before);
+}
+
 unsigned long long stat_mstamp(const struct stat *st)
 {
 #ifdef HAVE_STRUCT_STAT_ST_MTIM
diff --git a/shared/util.h b/shared/util.h
index c6a31df..f8c28e7 100644
--- a/shared/util.h
+++ b/shared/util.h
@@ -43,6 +43,9 @@ int mkdir_p(const char *path, int len, mode_t mode);
 int mkdir_parents(const char *path, mode_t mode);
 unsigned long long stat_mstamp(const struct stat *st);
 unsigned long long ts_usec(const struct timespec *ts);
+unsigned long long ts_msec(const struct timespec *ts);
+unsigned long long ts_delta_ms(const struct timespec *before,
+			       const struct timespec *after);
 
 /* endianess and alignments                                                 */
 /* ************************************************************************ */

> > +/**
> > + * kmod_module_remove_module_wait:
> > + * @mod: kmod module
> > + * @flags: flags to pass to Linux kernel when removing the module. The only valid flag is
> > + * KMOD_REMOVE_FORCE: force remove module regardless if it's still in
> > + * use by a kernel subsystem or other process;
> > + * KMOD_REMOVE_NOWAIT is always enforced, causing us to pass O_NONBLOCK to
> > + * delete_module(2). We do the waiting in userspace, if a wait was desired.
> > + *
> > + * Remove a module from Linux kernel patiently.
> > + *
> > + * Returns: 0 on success or < 0 on failure.
> > + */
> > +KMOD_EXPORT int kmod_module_remove_module_wait(struct kmod_module *mod,
> > +					       unsigned int flags,
> > +					       bool wait)
> 
> why do you have kmod_get_refcnt_timeout/kmod_set_refcnt_timeout instead
> of just doing s/bool wait/unsigned int wait_msec/)?

Because it lets us do a smaller change on the respetive tools:

tools/modprobe.c-               flags |= KMOD_REMOVE_FORCE;
tools/modprobe.c-
tools/modprobe.c:       err = kmod_module_remove_module_wait(mod, flags, do_remove_patient);
tools/modprobe.c-       if (err == -EEXIST) {
tools/modprobe.c-               if (!first_time)
--
tools/remove.c-         goto unref;
tools/remove.c-
tools/remove.c: err = kmod_module_remove_module_wait(mod, 0, do_remove_patient);
tools/remove.c- if (err < 0)
tools/remove.c-         goto unref;
--
tools/rmmod.c-          }
tools/rmmod.c-
tools/rmmod.c:          err = kmod_module_remove_module_wait(mod, flags,
tools/rmmod.c- do_remove_patient);
tools/rmmod.c-          if (err < 0) {

That is, the timeout is contextual of the context.

> > +		if ((refcnt <= 0) || (refcnt > 0 && !wait)) {
> > +			NOTICE(mod->ctx, "%s refcnt is %d\n", mod->name, (int) refcnt);
> > +			err_time = clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, &t2);
> > +			if (err_time != 0)
> > +				kmod_set_removal_timeout(mod->ctx, 0);
> 
> I don't follow why kmod_module_get_refcnt_wait() is setting the removal
> timeout at all. This seems to be doing it behind users back.

Because if clock_gettime() returns something other than 0 then
your clock is messed up and you should not be using a timeout, so
yes, we correct that then. We can scream loud, or use a default.

I figured not using one would be better in that case.

> The idea of using the refcnt fd was actually that then
> users could integrate it on their mainloops (probably using epoll). And
> then the same impl could be shared by kmod_module_remove_module_wait(),
> which would do a select().
> 
> This seems more like a kmod_module_refcnt_wait_zero() using poll()
> + adjusting the timeout

Sorry don't follow. And since I have one day before vacation, I suppose
I won't get to this until I get back. But I'd be happy if you massage
it as you see fit as you're used to the code base and I'm sure have
a better idea of what likely is best for the library.

> > +	ret = kmod_module_get_refcnt_wait(mod, do_remove_patient);
> 
> for tool implementation, shouldn't we just ignore
> kmod_module_get_refcnt() and proceed to
> kmod_module_remove_module_wait()?

I'll let you decide. Otherwise this will have to wait until I get back
from vacation.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-28  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-10  5:15 [PATCH v2 0/3] kmod: add patient module removal support Luis Chamberlain
2021-08-10  5:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] libkmod: add a library notice log level print Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-21  5:53   ` Lucas De Marchi
2021-09-21 18:40     ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-23  8:02       ` Lucas De Marchi
2021-08-10  5:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] libkmod/libkmod-module: add refcnt fd helper Luis Chamberlain
2021-08-10  5:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] libkmod-module: add support for a patient module removal option Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-23  8:51   ` Lucas De Marchi
2021-09-28  1:38     ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2021-09-29 18:48       ` Lucas De Marchi
2021-11-15 20:21         ` Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-15 17:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] kmod: add patient module removal support Luis Chamberlain
2021-09-21  5:51   ` Lucas De Marchi

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