From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Woodhouse Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:59:58 +0100 Message-ID: <1219766398.7107.87.camel@pmac.infradead.org> References: <7vprnzt7d5.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <1219664940.9583.42.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <7vy72kek6y.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <20080826145719.GB5046@coredump.intra.peff.net> <1219764860.4471.13.camel@gaara.bos.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Jeff King , Junio C Hamano , Johannes Schindelin , git@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org To: Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F8gsberg?= X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Tue Aug 26 18:02:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KY0yw-0001kd-Fm for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:01:22 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754798AbYHZQAS convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:00:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754338AbYHZQAR (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:00:17 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:49106 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754165AbYHZQAQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:00:16 -0400 Received: from pmac.infradead.org ([2001:8b0:10b:1:20d:93ff:fe7a:3f2c]) by casper.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.69 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1KY0xc-0008Sy-9S; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:00:00 +0000 In-Reply-To: <1219764860.4471.13.camel@gaara.bos.redhat.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by casper.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:34 -0400, Kristian H=C3=B8gsberg wrote: > It's pretty normal to see opponents of a decision like this complain > loudly when it lands on their system, whereas the silent majority in > favour will be happy to see the change finally implemented but reluct= ant > to stir up the discussion again. >=20 > I don't think new arguments are brought to the discussion, just new > people, who are temporarily inconvened by a change towards sanity. Nice emotive response, especially the subtle but unsubstantiated 'silen= t majority in favour' bit -- but you forgot the part where you were supposed to actually point out a tangible benefit which is achieved by breaking compatibility like this. And no, reducing the size of /usr/bin by a tiny fraction isn't really a worthwhile benefit -- in reality, the 'silent majority' really couldn't give a monkey's left testicle about that, and breakage caused by the gratuitous change _far_ outweighs any minuscule improvement. It's particularly silly because we could have just made these aliases optional but present by default, so those few nutters who _really_ spen= d their days worrying about such stuff can do without them. --=20 David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centr= e David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporatio= n