git.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, pclouds@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/19] index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:01:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1457568079.13557.7.camel@twopensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqpov3fdb6.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 2016-03-09 at 15:21 -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> 
> > David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com> writes:
> > 
> > > From: Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>
> > > 
> > > Instead of reading the index from disk and worrying about disk
> > > corruption, the index is cached in memory (memory bit-flips
> > > happen
> > > too, but hopefully less often). The result is faster read. Read
> > > time
> > > is reduced by 70%.
> > > 
> > > The biggest gain is not having to verify the trailing SHA-1,
> > > which
> > > takes lots of time especially on large index files.
> 
> Come to think of it, wouldn't it be far less intrusive change to
> just put the index on a ramdisk and skip the trailing SHA-1
> verification, to obtain a similar result with the same trade off
> (i.e. blindly trusting memory instead of being paranoid)?
> 

1. If the index were stored on a ramdisk, we would *also* have to write
it to durable storage to avoid losing the user's work when they power
off.  That's more complicated.  

2. Duy notes that it is easier to add further optimizations to this --
for instance, we could share a pre-parsed version of the index.  It
would be harder to add these optimizations to the disk format, because
(a) they would take up more space, and (b) they would probably be
harder to write in a single pass, which is presently how index writing
works.

3. If we wanted to just skip SHA-1 verification, we would not need a
ramdisk; it's almost certain that the index would be in the disk cache
most of the time, so regular storage should be very nearly as fast as a
ramdisk. I think mlock might help ensure that the data remains in the
cache, although I'm not sure what the permissions story is on that.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-10  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09 18:36 [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 01/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_PACK_STATS for pack usage statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 22:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:05     ` David Turner
2016-03-10 10:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 02/19] read-cache.c: fix constness of verify_hdr() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 03/19] read-cache: allow to keep mmap'd memory after reading David Turner
2016-03-09 23:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:09     ` David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 04/19] index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff David Turner
2016-03-09 23:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-09 23:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:01       ` David Turner [this message]
2016-03-10 11:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10 20:22         ` David Turner
2016-03-11  1:11           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10  0:18     ` David Turner
2016-03-15 11:56     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 15:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-15 11:52   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 05/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_INDEX_STATS for index statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 06/19] index-helper: add --strict David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 07/19] daemonize(): set a flag before exiting the main process David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 08/19] index-helper: add --detach David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 09/19] index-helper: add Windows support David Turner
2016-03-16 11:42   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 12:18     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 12:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 10/19] read-cache: add watchman 'WAMA' extension David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 11/19] Add watchman support to reduce index refresh cost David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 12/19] read-cache: allow index-helper to prepare shm before git reads it David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 13/19] index-helper: use watchman to avoid refreshing index with lstat() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 14/19] update-index: enable/disable watchman support David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 15/19] unpack-trees: preserve index extensions David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 16/19] index-helper: rewrite pidfile after daemonizing David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 17/19] index-helper: process management David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 18/19] index-helper: autorun David Turner
2016-03-15 12:12   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 14:26     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-16 11:37       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-16 18:11       ` David Turner
2016-03-16 18:27         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 13:02           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 14:43             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 18:31               ` David Turner
2016-03-18  0:50               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:14                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:44                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 17:22                     ` David Turner
2016-03-18 23:09                       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:17                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:34                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 15:57                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 19/19] hack: watchman/untracked cache mashup David Turner
2016-03-15 12:31   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17  0:56     ` David Turner
2016-03-17 13:06       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 18:08         ` David Turner
2016-03-29 17:09 ` [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman Torsten Bögershausen
2016-03-29 21:51   ` David Turner

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1457568079.13557.7.camel@twopensource.com \
    --to=dturner@twopensource.com \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=gitster@pobox.com \
    --cc=pclouds@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).