From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Yann Dirson Subject: Re: [StGit] Debian packaging update Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:55:24 +0200 Message-ID: <20080828195524.GI4985@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net> References: <20080818201036.7c2c00f8@whitehouse.id.au> <20080822235154.5e1f979c@whitehouse.id.au> <20080828140929.GB3584@khazad-dum.debian.net> <20080828154128.GB13169@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <20080828191625.GA17955@khazad-dum.debian.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Karl =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hasselstr=F6m?= , Catalin Marinas , Daniel White , git@vger.kernel.org, stgit@packages.debian.org To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Aug 28 21:56:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYnbb-0006ef-Kl for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:56:32 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753378AbYH1TzZ convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:55:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753572AbYH1TzZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:55:25 -0400 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]:60582 "EHLO smtp6-g19.free.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752286AbYH1TzZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:55:25 -0400 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208A31724F; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:55:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gandelf.nowhere.earth (nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net [81.57.214.146]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B62196F5; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:55:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gandelf.nowhere.earth (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1AF3CA003; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:55:24 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080828191625.GA17955@khazad-dum.debian.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 04:16:25PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh w= rote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Karl Hasselstr=F6m wrote: > > On 2008-08-28 11:09:29 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > Whatever people told you guys, the sad truth is that for the > > > overwhelming majority of packages, the mere presence of a debian/ > > > dir upstream is taken as a warning sign by any seasoned Debian > > > developer (i.e. it is so often a problem, we take it as a bad sig= n). > > > It almost never helps. I have no idea where stgit is in that rega= rd, > > > though. And I have NOT checked the "upstream version of the Debia= n > > > packaging", so please don't take this personally. > > > > > > But I can tell you that most DDs would prefer that upstream dumpe= d > > > the debian/ dir, unless it is kept *really* current. And really, = at > > > that point, you are losing a lot of the benefits of a downstream > > > maintainer anyway (i.e. you are not delegating the whole issue to > > > him, so that you can ignore the packaging and just pay attention = to > > > stgit itself). > > > > > > Of course, this changes a lot when upstream is also a Debian > > > developer and spends a few hours per week keeping up-to-date with > > > Debian policy and toolset changes, etc. > >=20 > > So the optimal solution if we want to carry a debian/ directory (to > > allow users to easily build their own .debs, or whatnot) would mayb= e > > be to simply politely ask our Debian maintainer to send us patches = or > > pull requests to keep it up-to-date? >=20 > Yes, but that assumes you release often. Otherwise users get an old > version of the packaging all the time. Well, stgit does not require so much packaging change for each release. The current debian/ dir in the git repo, while not 100% uptodate, still allows anyone to build snapshots. Best regards, --=20 Yann