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From: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Tarmigan <tarmigan+git@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git-aware HTTP transport
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:13:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080902061342.GI13248@spearce.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48BCD899.3010805@zytor.com>

"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
>>
>> Correct.  Today _none_ of the transport protocols allow the server
>> to force the client to use some sort of reference repository for an
>> initial clone.  There are likely two reasons for this:
>>
>>  *) Its a lot simpler to program to just get everything from
>>     one location.
>>
>>  *) If you really are forking an open source project then in
>>     some cases you may need to distribute the full source,
>> 	not your delta.  You may just as well distribute the full
>> 	source and call it a day.
>>
>
> 3) it encourages single points of failure.

Or bad network usage, as I pointed out later about an India user
unknowingly being forced into a US based mirror when another was
closer to them.

I didn't make it clear in my response but I'm really against our
protocol having this sort of explicit redirect.  I'd rather put a
requirement in that says "Unless you have X,Y,Z in common with me
(directly or indirectly) I'm just not going to give you a pack".

FWIW that fixes an issue for me at day-job that people will be
cursing about later this year in public.  Not my fault.  We would
all rather just publish the entire repository.  Instead we have
to publish something that requires the user to clone it from
another source first, and use fetch or "clone --reference" to get
our updates.  *sigh*

-- 
Shawn.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-02  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-26  1:26 Git-aware HTTP transport Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26  2:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-26  3:45   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26  3:59     ` david
2008-08-26  4:15       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-26  4:25         ` david
2008-08-26  4:42           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-26  4:45           ` Imran M Yousuf
2008-08-26 17:01       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-26 17:03         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26  4:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-26 14:58   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 16:14     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 16:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-26 17:26       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 22:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-27  2:51           ` Imran M Yousuf
2008-08-28  3:50           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28  4:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28  4:42               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28  4:58                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28  6:40               ` Imran M Yousuf
2008-08-28  4:42             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-28 14:57               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28 17:26                 ` david
2008-08-28 17:28                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28 17:37                     ` david
2008-08-28 17:38                       ` Daniel Stenberg
2008-08-28 17:43                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28 17:47                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 18:04                       ` Mike Hommey
2008-08-28 17:43                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 18:12                     ` david
2008-08-28 18:14                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 18:18                         ` david
2008-08-29  4:02                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-29  5:11                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-29  6:50                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-29 17:39                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-29 19:55                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-01 16:05                         ` Tarmigan
2008-09-01 16:13                           ` Tarmigan
2008-09-02  6:06                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-09-02  6:09                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-02  6:13                               ` Shawn O. Pearce [this message]
2008-09-02 18:20                             ` Tarmigan
2008-08-28 17:05               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 17:10                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28 17:20                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 17:26                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28 17:44                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 17:46                         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-28 18:40                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-28 18:47                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13  1:34 ` Git-aware HTTP transport docs H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13  2:23   ` Scott Chacon
2013-02-13 15:29     ` Junio C Hamano

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