From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jonathan Nieder Subject: Re: What is missing from Git v2.0 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: <20140425161443.GE11479@google.com> References: <5358bae8ab550_1f7b143d31037@nysa.notmuch> <877g6fb2h6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5358ca1a55a69_1f7b143d3101c@nysa.notmuch> <20140424134106.GA27035@thunk.org> <20140424195559.GA1336@luc-arch> <87d2g69ekl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140425154104.GB11479@google.com> <871twl9z8h.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Javier Domingo Cansino , Git Mailing List To: David Kastrup X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Fri Apr 25 18:15:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WdimA-0005wz-VX for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 18:14:59 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753698AbaDYQOs (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2014 12:14:48 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com ([209.85.192.180]:65018 "EHLO mail-pd0-f180.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751278AbaDYQOq (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2014 12:14:46 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v10so3313511pde.39 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=mO+AiopxIVDtOou8oVZTom+H3eXVQHuYur043/gqjPg=; b=uMNY9wfzf5G/ARdMqN404SMb2DskkXMHTDb2HKSkPF2P+1hJHY/W3S4vYlWq5rHyti CjgQsPqgIdpCATuuPjyDdh218nGc1FB2AWdsGll2Fla7+9kcLLeDi/uXFcKUL4+gusqo MA0wZfEBodcoONxtvp4EUo2/BJA9zmekwcCL1+syy1OmeXWOW/Yjrom2S3CVjbOBwx9w aCXWkOfu8els6tQ+kb5un+csjR0PmGDkUxidbloYIiyQU2i3j6bydH76t2a6dFdc9Ovd FZcAzkdx+6OifQ0Btp14AKnhMlCygDf2hx5VYuekVOJ3J+csvYS4mSkG1pXV/FzmMtA5 PqKw== X-Received: by 10.66.141.144 with SMTP id ro16mr8835126pab.131.1398442485972; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from google.com ([2620:0:1000:5b00:b6b5:2fff:fec3:b50d]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gz11sm16897713pbd.1.2014.04.25.09.14.44 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871twl9z8h.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > Jonathan Nieder writes: >> I probably missed a subtlety, but the above comment reminded me of >> some netiquette I think this list is starting to forget. If I have >> misread it, please let me know and skip the rest of this message. [...] >> On the git list, the rule is simple. Feel free to grumble, but make >> sure there is some contribution in the same message. [...] > Uh, Javier was commenting on a number of concrete proposals regarding > the subject line "What is missing from Git v2.0" and quoted Felipe > directly. As you seem to have lost the context, let me requote the > respective portion: I hadn't lost the context, but thanks for a pointer. [...] > = Reject non-fast-forward pulls by default = [...] > The patches were sent, the issues were addressed, people agreed, and > yet nothing happened. > > [3][4] > > [...] > > [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/240030 > [4] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/235981 Unfortunately Felipe's summary is incomplete. My message was meant as something that could be made into a reference for when similar questions of netiquette come up in the future (as for example they do all the time with Felipe). That meant I didn't give as good advice for your particular case than I should have. For this particular case, my thoughts are: If you believe those patches should be applied, please re-send them with a summary of changes you've made (if any) and your opinion on any unaddressed comments from the review thread. If you believe those patches should not be applied, wouldn't it be better to reply to that thread to help in case someone wants to pick up the patches and fix them? On the other hand if you just want to blow off steam, I guess that's fine too. Just don't expect it to result in any patches being applied, code quality improving, etc. Jonathan