From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337A7C432C0 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 02:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F2E2068E for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 02:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726540AbfK0Chq (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:37:46 -0500 Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net ([64.71.152.64]:54468 "EHLO dcvr.yhbt.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726346AbfK0Chp (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:37:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513871F463; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 02:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 02:37:45 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: Junio C Hamano Cc: Johannes Schindelin , Jeff King , Emily Shaffer , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: GitGitGadget on git/git, was Re: Should we auto-close PRs on git/git? Message-ID: <20191127023745.GA15031@dcvr> References: <20191114074117.GB17186@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20191121105414.GA16238@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20191125143023.GF494@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20191126215648.GA18872@dcvr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Junio C Hamano wrote: > Eric Wong writes: > > > (and I'm not going to pay extortionist .org fees to keep > > public-inbox.org when it comes up for renewal in 2023, > > maybe everyone can use Tor .onions by then :> ) > > Just on this tangent. Would you be willing to keep the domain and > keep the service running, if Git Project Leadership Committee pays > the fee out of the funds we keep at Software Freedom Conservancy? Maybe... I'm against the *principle* of paying extortionists; and I don't think the Git project should encourage them, either. Promoting + developing a Distributed Hash Table (DHT) for Message-ID (and git OID) lookups to fight against centralization would be a better use of time and funds :> However, if EFF and other .orgs prove effective in keeping prices reasonable then that's fine, I guess. I personally expect to be financially worse off in 2023 than I was in 2013 when I bought the domain, so some help there could be nice :) The actual cost of running a service is only $20/month in VPS hosting. It's a business expense at the moment as I hack on that machine for clients, and I'm trying to make public-inbox cheaper and easier to host, too. But, https://lore.kernel.org/git/ has professionals behind it and is more scalable. It's currently missing syntax highlighting and blob regeneration because that's a PITA to configure, though...