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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: "Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: support '--split[=<strategy>]'
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:50:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200212205028.GE4364@syl.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN0heSrNJ5XdJ=w=xgNQORAyprOD6xudivveroXV-OJwO6nBvg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 07:03:46AM +0100, Martin Ågren wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 16:48, Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/6/2020 2:41 PM, Martin Ågren wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 01:28, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> wrote:
> > >> -               OPT_BOOL(0, "split", &opts.split,
> > >> -                       N_("allow writing an incremental commit-graph file")),
> > >> +               OPT_CALLBACK_F(0, "split", &split_opts.flags, NULL,
> > >> +                       N_("allow writing an incremental commit-graph file"),
> > >> +                       PARSE_OPT_OPTARG | PARSE_OPT_NONEG,
> > >> +                       write_option_parse_split),
> > >
> > >
> > > I keep getting back to this -- sorry! So this actually forbids
> > > "--no-split", which used to work before. Unfortunate?
> >
> > That certainly is unfortunate. Hopefully no one is taking a dependence on
> > this, which only means something if they had a `--split` previously in
> > the command-line arguments.
> >
> > > I have to ask, what is the long-term plan for the two formats (split and
> > > non-split)? As I understand it, and I might well be wrong, the non-split
> > > format came first and the split format was a user-experience
> > > improvement. Should we expect that `--split` becomes the default?
> >
> > In some ways, the split is now the default because that is how it is
> > written during 'git fetch' using fetch.writeCommitGraph. However, I
> > don't think that it will ever become the default for the commit-graph
> > builtin.
>
> Thanks for giving this piece of background.
>
> > > To try to be concrete, here's a suggestion: `--format=split` and
> > > `--split-strategy=<strategy>`.
> >
> > Why --format=split instead of leaving it as --[no-]split? Is there a reason to
> > introduce this string-based option when there are only two options right now?
>
> My thinking was, if my concern is "--split" being overloaded, what would
> it look like to "unload" it entirely? From "--split" it isn't obvious
> whether it's a verb or an adjective (shall we split, or shall we do
> things the split way?). Having "--format=split" would help avoid *that*,
> possibly leaving a cleaner field for the issue of "do we
> allow/force/forbid the 'merging' to happen?". But I'm happy to accept
> "--split=<strategy>" and move on. :-)
>
> I see that Taylor juuust posted a v3. I'll try to find time to look it
> over, but I won't be raising this point again.

It looks like we raced :-). Sorry about that. I didn't see your email
until after I sent, and I certainly would have waited if I knew that you
were writing an email to the same thread as I was working in at the same
time.

I'm still fairly happy with the '--split[=<strategy>]' approach that is
implemented in all versions of this patch series, although I do
understand your suggestions.

My preference would be to see if anybody else feels like the trade-off
*is* worth it (I explained earlier in the thread some reasons why I feel
that the trade-off is *not* worth it), but I'd be happy to move this
series forward as-is unless others echo this idea.

> Martin

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-12 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-31  0:28 [PATCH 0/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: new split/merge options Taylor Blau
2020-01-31  0:28 ` [PATCH 1/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: support '--split[=<strategy>]' Taylor Blau
2020-01-31 14:19   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-02-04  3:47     ` Taylor Blau
2020-01-31 19:27   ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04  4:06     ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-06 19:15       ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-09 23:27         ` Taylor Blau
2020-01-31 23:34   ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-01 21:25     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-02-03 10:47       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-03 11:11         ` Jeff King
2020-02-04  3:58           ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-04 14:14             ` Jeff King
2020-02-04  3:59       ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-04  3:59     ` Taylor Blau
2020-01-31  0:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: introduce '--input=<source>' Taylor Blau
2020-01-31 14:40   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-02-04  4:21     ` Taylor Blau
2020-01-31 19:34   ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04  4:51     ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-13 11:33       ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-13 11:48         ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-13 17:56           ` Taylor Blau
2020-01-31  0:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: support '--input=none' Taylor Blau
2020-01-31 14:40   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-01-31 19:45   ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-04  5:01     ` Taylor Blau
2020-01-31  0:32 ` [PATCH 0/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: new split/merge options Taylor Blau
2020-01-31 13:26   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-01-31 14:41 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-02-04 23:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-05  0:30   ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-05  0:28 ` [PATCH v2 " Taylor Blau
2020-02-05  0:28   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: support '--split[=<strategy>]' Taylor Blau
2020-02-06 19:41     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-07 15:48       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-02-09 23:32         ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-12  6:03         ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-12 20:50           ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2020-02-09 23:30       ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-05  0:28   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: introduce '--input=<source>' Taylor Blau
2020-02-05  0:28   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: support '--input=none' Taylor Blau
2020-02-06 19:50     ` Martin Ågren
2020-02-09 23:32       ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-05 20:07   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: new split/merge options Junio C Hamano
2020-02-12  5:47 ` [PATCH v3 " Taylor Blau
2020-02-12  5:47   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: support '--split[=<strategy>]' Taylor Blau
2020-02-12  5:47   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: introduce '--input=<source>' Taylor Blau
2020-02-12  5:47   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: support '--input=none' Taylor Blau
2020-02-13 11:39     ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-13 12:31     ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-13 16:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-13 17:58         ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-13 17:56       ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-12 18:19   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] builtin/commit-graph.c: new split/merge options Junio C Hamano
2020-02-13 17:41     ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-17 18:24   ` Martin Ågren

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