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From: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
To: stolee@gmail.com
Cc: jonathantanmy@google.com, gitgitgadget@gmail.com,
	git@vger.kernel.org, sandals@crustytoothpaste.net,
	steadmon@google.com, jrnieder@gmail.com, peff@peff.net,
	congdanhqx@gmail.com, phillip.wood123@gmail.com,
	emilyshaffer@google.com, sluongng@gmail.com,
	derrickstolee@github.com, dstolee@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/11] maintenance: add commit-graph task
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 10:43:22 -0700
Message-ID: <20200819174322.3087791-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66ae9121-80c9-4030-1119-a11eab8d392b@gmail.com>

> The cases we've seen this happen were root-caused to hardware
> problems (disk or RAM), and the invalid data was present immediately
> after the "git commit-graph write" command. Since implementing the
> "verify" step after each write, we have not had any user reports of
> problems with these files.
> 
> Are you suggesting one of these options?
> 
>  1. Remove this validation and rewrite entirely.
> 
>  2. Remove the rewrite and only delete the known-bad data.
> 
>  3. Insert a way to cause the verify to return failure mid-process,
>     so that this function can be covered by tests.

I was suggesting 1, although 2 and 3 would assuage my concerns also (2
less so, but just deleting the file is relatively simple and easier to
reason about). I don't think Git in general defends much against
hardware problems, but if an issue is noticeable in some hardware (as is
in this case, at least in the past) I can see why we would want to
defend against it. My concern is that if we do defend against it, but
leave it untested, several versions of Git later we might find that we
need this defense but it does not work.

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Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-06 15:48 [PATCH 00/11] Maintenance I: Command, gc and commit-graph tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 01/11] maintenance: create basic maintenance runner Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-07 22:16   ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-12 21:03   ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-08-12 22:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-12 22:50       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-08-14  1:05     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 02/11] maintenance: add --quiet option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 03/11] maintenance: replace run_auto_gc() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 04/11] maintenance: initialize task array Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 05/11] maintenance: add commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-07 22:29   ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-12 13:30     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-14 12:23       ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 06/11] maintenance: add --task option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 07/11] maintenance: take a lock on the objects directory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 08/11] maintenance: create maintenance.<task>.enabled config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 09/11] maintenance: use pointers to check --auto Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 10/11] maintenance: add auto condition for commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-06 15:48 ` [PATCH 11/11] maintenance: add trace2 regions for task execution Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 14:22 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Maintenance I: Command, gc and commit-graph tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 14:22   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] maintenance: create basic maintenance runner Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 14:22   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] maintenance: add --quiet option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] maintenance: replace run_auto_gc() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] maintenance: initialize task array Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 23:46     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] maintenance: add commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 23:51     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-19 15:04       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-19 17:43         ` Jonathan Tan [this message]
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] maintenance: add --task option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-19  0:00     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-19  0:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-19 15:09         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-19 17:35           ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] maintenance: take a lock on the objects directory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-19  0:04     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-19 15:10       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] maintenance: create maintenance.<task>.enabled config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] maintenance: use pointers to check --auto Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] maintenance: add auto condition for commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-19  0:09     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-19 15:15       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-18 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] maintenance: add trace2 regions for task execution Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-19  0:11     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-18 20:18   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Maintenance I: Command, gc and commit-graph tasks Junio C Hamano
2020-08-19 14:51     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-25 18:33   ` [PATCH v3 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] maintenance: create basic maintenance runner Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] maintenance: add --quiet option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] maintenance: replace run_auto_gc() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] maintenance: initialize task array Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] maintenance: add commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] maintenance: add --task option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] maintenance: take a lock on the objects directory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-26 23:02       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] maintenance: create maintenance.<task>.enabled config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] maintenance: use pointers to check --auto Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] maintenance: add auto condition for commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-08-26 23:02       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-08-26 23:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-25 18:33     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] maintenance: add trace2 regions for task execution Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09     ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Maintenance I: Command, gc and commit-graph tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] maintenance: create basic maintenance runner Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] maintenance: add --quiet option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] maintenance: replace run_auto_gc() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] maintenance: initialize task array Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] maintenance: add commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] maintenance: add --task option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] maintenance: take a lock on the objects directory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] maintenance: create maintenance.<task>.enabled config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] maintenance: use pointers to check --auto Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] maintenance: add auto condition for commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-04 13:09       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] maintenance: add trace2 regions for task execution Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Maintenance I: Command, gc and commit-graph tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] maintenance: create basic maintenance runner Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] maintenance: add --quiet option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] maintenance: replace run_auto_gc() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] maintenance: initialize task array Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] maintenance: add commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] maintenance: add --task option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] maintenance: take a lock on the objects directory Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-21 13:36           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-09-21 13:43             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-09-21 19:29               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] maintenance: create maintenance.<task>.enabled config Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] maintenance: use pointers to check --auto Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] maintenance: add auto condition for commit-graph task Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:11         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] maintenance: add trace2 regions for task execution Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-09-17 18:35         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Maintenance I: Command, gc and commit-graph tasks Junio C Hamano
2020-09-18 13:14           ` Johannes Schindelin

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