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From: "Đoàn Trần Công Danh" <congdanhqx@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Denton Liu <liu.denton@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] CodingGuidelines: mark external declarations with "extern"
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 07:37:01 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201010003701.GC27795@danh.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqpn5rrvfg.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On 2020-10-09 13:33:39-0700, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
> > The argument for including it is less clear to me. You say below:
> >
> >> [...]By doing so, we would also prevent a
> >> mistake of not writing "extern" when we need to (i.e. decls of data
> >> items, that are not functions) when less experienced developers try
> >> to mimic how the existing surrounding declarations are written.
> >
> > but to my recollection that has not been a big problem. And it's one
> > that's usually easily caught by the compiler. A missing "extern" on a
> > variable will usually get you a multiple-definition warning at
> > link-time (if you manage to also omit the actual definition you won't
> > see that, though "make sparse" will warn that your variable ought to be
> > static).
> 
> Not really, that is where the "common" extension comes in, to help
> us with it hurt others without it, unknowingly X-<.

Yes, that's where tentative definition jumpes in.
But, tentative definition is known to cause headache to compiler optimization.
And from GCC 10, gcc change to `-fno-common` by default.

We can enable `-fno-common` now if we can detect our compiler is gcc,
but, I don't think it worth to fiddle with Makefile to add that logic.

> 
>         $ cat >a.c <<\EOF
>         #include <stdio.h>
>         #include "c.h"
> 
>         int common = 47;
> 
>         int main(int ac, char **av)
>         {
>             printf("%d\n", common + other);
>             return 0;
>         }
>         EOF
>         $ cat >b.c <<\EOF
>         #include "c.h"
> 
>         int other = 22;
>         EOF
>         $ cat >c.h <<\EOF
>         int common;
>         int other;
>         EOF
>         $ gcc -Wall -o c a.c b.c; ./c
>         59
> 
> And I have a strong preference, after thinking about it, to have
> "extern" in front in the declarations.  It gives another clue for
> patterns I feed to "git grep" to latch onto, and help my eyes to
> scan and tell decls and defns apart in the output.


With this argument, I think adding "extern" is worth it.
It could help people find the code better.

-- 
Danh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-10  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-08 15:27 [PATCH] clean up extern decl of functions Junio C Hamano
2020-10-09  1:55 ` Denton Liu
2020-10-09  2:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-09 19:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-09 19:27       ` [RFC] CodingGuidelines: mark external declarations with "extern" Junio C Hamano
2020-10-09 19:57         ` Jeff King
2020-10-09 20:33           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-09 23:00             ` Denton Liu
2020-10-09 23:05               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-10  0:37             ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh [this message]
2020-10-15  1:36             ` Jeff King
2020-10-15 17:15               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-15 19:28                 ` Jeff King
2020-10-15 19:30                   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] usage: define a type for a reporting function Jeff King
2020-10-15 19:30                   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] config.mak.dev: build with -fno-common Jeff King

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