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From: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
To: avarab@gmail.com
Cc: jonathantanmy@google.com, git@vger.kernel.org, peff@peff.net,
	felipe.contreras@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] Cloning with remote unborn HEAD
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 20:41:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210130044142.808860-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7n3p363.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

> On Tue, Jan 26 2021, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> 
> [For some reason the patches didn't reach my mailbox, but I see them in
> the list archive, so I'm replying to the cover-letter]
> 
> >  Documentation/config.txt                |  2 +
> >  Documentation/config/init.txt           |  2 +-
> 
> Good, now we have init.defaultBranch docs, but they say:
>     
>      init.defaultBranch::
>             Allows overriding the default branch name e.g. when initializing
>     -       a new repository or when cloning an empty repository.
>     +       a new repository.
> 
> So this still only applies to file:// and other "protocol" clones, but
> not "git clone /some/path"?

Ah...that's true.

> Re my reply to v1, do we consider that a bug, feature, something just
> left unimplemented?
> 
> I really don't care much, but this really needs a corresponding
> documentation update. I.e. something like:
> 
>     init.defaultBranch::
>         Allows overriding the default branch name e.g. when initializing a
>         new repository or when cloning an empty repository.
>     
>         When cloning a repository over protocol v2 (i.e. ssh://, https://,
>         file://, but not a /some/path), and if that repository has
>         init.defaultBranch configured, the server will advertise its
>         preferred default branch name, and we'll take its configuration over
>         ours.

Thanks - I'll use some of your wording, but I think it's best to leave
open the possibility that cloning using protocol v0 or the disk clone
(/some/path) copies over the current HEAD as well.

> Which, just in terms of implementation makes me think it would make more
> sense if the server just had:
> 
>     uploadPack.sendConfig = "init.defaultBranch=xyz"
> 
> The client:
> 
>     receivePack.acceptConfig = "init.defaultBranch"
> 
> And in terms of things on the wire we'd say:
> 
>     "set-config init.defaultBranch=main"
> 
> You could have many such lines, but we'd just harcode only accepting
> "init.defaultBranch" by default for now.
> 
> I.e. we set "init.defaultBranch" on the server, and the client ends up
> interpreting things as if though "init.defaultBranch" was set to exactly
> that value. So why not just ... send a line saying "you should set your
> init.defaultBranch config to this".
> 
> Makes it future-extensible pretty much for free, and I think also much
> easier to explain to users. I.e. instead of init.defaultBranch somehow
> being magical when talking with a remote server we can talk about a
> remote server being one source of config per git-config's documented
> config order, for a very narrow whitelist of config keys.
>
> Or (not clear to me, should have waited with my other E-Mail) are we
> ever expecting to send more than one of:
> 
>     "unborn <refname> symref-target:<target>"
> 
> Or is the reason closer to us being able to shoehorn this into the
> existing ls-refs response, as opposed to some general "here's config for
> you" response we don't have?

It's not the same - from what I understand, what you're suggesting is
setting a config in the repo that has just been cloned, but this patch
set does not set any such config. Also, it may be strange for the server
to be able to change the config of a currently running command - I would
expect such a thing to only take effect on future runs of Git on that
repo.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-30  4:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-08  1:31 Cloning empty repository uses locally configured default branch name Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08  2:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-08  2:32   ` brian m. carlson
2020-12-08 18:55   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08 21:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-08 15:58 ` Jeff King
2020-12-08 20:06   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08 21:15     ` Jeff King
2020-12-11 21:05 ` [PATCH] clone: in protocol v2, use remote's default branch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-11 23:41   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-14 12:38   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-14 15:51     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 16:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  1:41       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-15  2:22         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  2:38         ` Jeff King
2020-12-15  2:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  4:36             ` Jeff King
2020-12-16  3:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 18:39                 ` Jeff King
2020-12-16 20:56                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  6:19                     ` Jeff King
2020-12-15  3:22         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 19:25     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-14 19:42       ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-15  1:27   ` Jeff King
2020-12-15 19:10     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  2:07   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Cloning with remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  6:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 23:49         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16 18:23       ` Jeff King
2020-12-16 23:54         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-17  1:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  6:16             ` Jeff King
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  6:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:30   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Cloning with " Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:30     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:31     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:31     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 23:48     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-21 20:14     ` Jeff King
2020-12-22 21:54   ` [PATCH v4 " Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 20:48       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:13         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:16           ` Jeff King
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 20:55       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:16         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 21:02       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:22         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:04           ` Jeff King
2021-01-28  5:50             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-22 22:06     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 18:55 ` [PATCH v5 " Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 21:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 23:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  3:55         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:20       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 23:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 20:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-29 22:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  2:20           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  5:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  1:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-30  4:04       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 21:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  4:06       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 22:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  4:27       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-27  1:11   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  4:25     ` Jeff King
2021-01-27  6:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  1:41   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-30  4:41     ` Jonathan Tan [this message]
2021-01-30 11:13       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  2:22       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-03 14:23         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-05 22:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  2:14 ` [PATCH v6 " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:14   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02 16:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02 18:34       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02 22:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-03  1:04           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:15   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:15   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Cloning with " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 16:10     ` Jeff King
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  5:25   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05 16:15     ` Jeff King
2021-02-05 21:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-05 23:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05 20:48 ` [PATCH v8 " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-06 18:51   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08 22:28     ` Junio C Hamano

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