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From: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Varun Varada <varuncvarada@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect"
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 12:33:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210512103332.GB8544@kitsune.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210512100855.GA8544@kitsune.suse.cz>

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:08:55PM +0200, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 04:06:56AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > Michal Suchánek wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:13:08AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > > > Michal Suchánek wrote:
> > 
> > > > > You can use 'affect' or 'impact' and it generally conveys the same
> > > > > meaning.
> > > > 
> > > > That's clearly *your* opinion, but that's not my opinon.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not arguing between blue and red; I'm arguing between water-based and
> > > > lead-based paint.
> > > 
> > > No, you are not. There is no clear problem with 'impact', either.
> > 
> > There's no clear problem *to you*.
> > 
> > > So if somebody comes along later and says that they find 'affect'
> > > confusing and impact should be used does that need to be accepted as
> > > well, back and forth ad nauseam?
> > 
> > No. When that happens we start a new discussion, and see where that
> > leads.
> > 
> > > > The difference may not matter to you, but it matters to me.
> > > > 
> > > > If it's bikeshedding to you, and it "gnerally conveys the same meaning",
> > > > why are you arguing against?
> > > 
> > > So if 'for' loops and 'while' loops generally convey the same meaning
> > > should we accept patches that replace some 'for' loops with 'while'
> > > lopps or vice versa?
> > 
> > You are not answering my question, and you are providing an irrelevant
> > example.
> > 
> > I don't see any general difference between 'for' loops and 'while'
> > loops. But I do see a difference between 'impact' and 'affect'.
> > 
> > You are starting from the premise that $a is no different than $b.
> > That's your opinion, and I'm not disregarding it. But other people (e.g.
> > Varun and me) do have a different opinion.
> > 
> > Again, to make it crystal clear; you opine that $a and $b are equal, we
> > opine that they are not. We don't disregard your opinion, you do
> > disregard ours.
> > 
> > I don't know how much clearer I can make this.

And changes to git should be based on fact, not opinion.

I don't know how much clearer I can state it.

Thanks

Michal

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-12 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-05 21:48 [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect" Varun Varada
2021-04-06  9:24 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-04-06 19:36   ` Varun Varada
2021-04-06 23:01     ` Jeff King
2021-04-07  0:06       ` Varun Varada
2021-04-28  0:39         ` Varun Varada
2021-04-28  8:58           ` Michal Suchánek
2021-04-28 18:15             ` Varun Varada
2021-04-28 18:49               ` Michal Suchánek
2021-04-30  1:51                 ` Varun Varada
2021-04-30  7:59                   ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-10 17:19                     ` Varun Varada
2021-05-10 17:35                       ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-10 18:37                         ` Varun Varada
2021-05-11 10:43                           ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-11 13:22                             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-12  3:02                               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:59                             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:48                         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:38                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:34             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:24       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 19:59     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 20:25       ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-11 21:38         ` Varun Varada
2021-05-12  3:43           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  4:09             ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  5:13               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  6:47                 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  9:06                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 10:08                     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 10:33                       ` Michal Suchánek [this message]
2021-05-12 11:05                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 11:20                         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 11:45                           ` Robert P. J. Day
2021-05-12 15:19                             ` Kerry, Richard
2021-05-12 16:47                   ` Varun Varada
2021-05-12 17:01                     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 17:32                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 18:04                         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 19:42                           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13  7:46                             ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-13  8:28                               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13  8:55                               ` Robert Coup
2021-05-13  9:48                                 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-13  9:59                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-26 23:49                                   ` Varun Varada
2021-05-27 11:46                                     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-27 14:08                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-27 14:35                                         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-27 16:43                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-12 23:13                                           ` Varun Varada
2021-06-13 11:40                                             ` Michal Suchánek
2021-06-13 14:06                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-13 16:28                                                 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-06-13 17:12                                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 22:52                       ` Varun Varada
2021-05-13  6:19                         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  3:21         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 19:21   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 19:57     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  3:09       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  4:11         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  5:22           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 16:39           ` Varun Varada
2021-05-13 10:40 ` Philip Oakley
2021-05-26 23:52   ` Varun Varada
2021-05-27 11:20     ` Philip Oakley

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