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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] diff: fix interaction between the "-s" option and other options
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 21:25:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230511012558.GA1464167@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <645c2bc57fdd0_7c6152945e@chronos.notmuch>

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 05:41:57PM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
> > > And it led to unproductive and irritating waste of time number of times, and
> > > eventually you were asked to leave the development community for at least a
> > > few times.
> > 
> > That is blatantly false. As a member of Git's Project Leadership Committee, you
> > should know precisely how many times the committee has excercised this power,
> > and it hasn't been "a few times", it has been one time.
> 
> And for the record: that one time I was asked by the committee to not interact
> with certain members of the community for a few months.
> 
> The amount of times I was asked to "leave the development community" is *zero*.

You're right, in the sense that the first time you were asked to leave
we did not have a CoC, and nor was the PLC expected to be part of such
conversations at that time. Likewise, many times during which your
behavior has been a problem on the list, people did not ask you to
leave, but simply said "I am not going to read your messages anymore".

For example, here's Junio asking you to leave in 2013:

  https://lore.kernel.org/git/7vsj0lvs8f.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org/

Here's him explaining a few months later why your patches aren't getting
reviewed:

  https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqtxgjg35a.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com/

Here's me addressing complaints about your behavior half a year after
that:

 https://lore.kernel.org/git/20140514202646.GE2715@sigill.intra.peff.net/

    That last one has some gmane links; if anyone truly wants to follow
    them (and I don't recommend that as being worth your time), the lore
    equivalents are:

      https://lore.kernel.org/git/20140425191236.GA31637@sigill.intra.peff.net/

      https://lore.kernel.org/git/480ACEB0-7629-44DF-805F-E9543E66241B@quendi.de/

      https://lore.kernel.org/git/7vfvl0htys.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org/

      https://lore.kernel.org/git/20140502223612.GA11374@sigill.intra.peff.net/

I'm sure you will find reason to argue with all of that. But I think the
spirit of "it led to an unproductive and irritating waste of time a
number of times" is accurate. And this thread is one more example.

You can feel free to respond if you want to; I'm not planning to
participate further in this thread (and in case you were not aware, I'm
not on the PLC any more). I just didn't want Junio to think he was alone
in his view of the situation.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-11  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-03 13:41 [PATCH] t4013: add expected failure for "log --patch --no-patch" Sergey Organov
2023-05-03 16:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-03 17:31   ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-03 18:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-03 18:32       ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-03 19:49       ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-04 15:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-04 18:24         ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-04 20:53           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-04 21:37             ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2023-05-04 23:10               ` [PATCH] diff: fix behaviour of the "-s" option Junio C Hamano
2023-05-05  5:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-05 16:51                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-09  1:16                   ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-05  8:32                 ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-05 16:31                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-05 17:07                     ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-05 16:59                 ` [PATCH v2] diff: fix interaction between the "-s" option and other options Junio C Hamano
2023-05-05 17:41                   ` Eric Sunshine
2023-05-05 19:01                     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-05 21:19                   ` [PATCH 0/2] dirstat: leakfix Junio C Hamano
2023-05-05 21:19                     ` [PATCH 1/2] diff: refactor common tail part of dirstat computation Junio C Hamano
2023-05-05 21:19                     ` [PATCH 2/2] diff: plug leaks in dirstat Junio C Hamano
2023-05-09  0:38                   ` [PATCH v2] diff: fix interaction between the "-s" option and other options Felipe Contreras
2023-05-09  1:22                     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-09  3:50                       ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-10  4:26                         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-10 23:16                           ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-10 23:41                             ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11  1:25                               ` Jeff King [this message]
2023-05-13  3:07                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11  1:50                             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-13  5:32                               ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-09  1:34           ` [PATCH] t4013: add expected failure for "log --patch --no-patch" Felipe Contreras
2023-05-10 13:54             ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-10 21:54               ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-09  1:03         ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-04 18:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-04 18:26     ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-09  1:07     ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-10 13:40       ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-10 21:39         ` Felipe Contreras

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