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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 03:12:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231212081238.GD1117953@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1701198172.git.me@ttaylorr.com>

On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 02:07:54PM -0500, Taylor Blau wrote:

> Performing verbatim pack reuse naturally trades off between CPU time and
> the resulting pack size. In the above example, the single-pack reuse
> case produces a clone size of ~194 MB on my machine, while the
> multi-pack reuse case produces a clone size closer to ~266 MB, which is
> a ~37% increase in clone size.

Right, it's definitely a tradeoff. So taking a really big step back,
there are a few optimizations all tied up in the verbatim reuse code:

  1. in some cases we get to dump whole swaths of the on-disk packfile
     to the output, covering many objects with a few memcpy() calls.
     (This is still O(n), of course, but it's fewer instructions per
     object).

  2. any other reused objects have only a small-ish amount of work to
     fix up ofs deltas, handle gaps, and so on. We get to skip adding
     them to the packing_list struct (this saves some CPU, but also a
     lot of memory)

  3. we skip the delta search for these reused objects. This is where
     your big CPU / output size tradeoff comes into play, I'd think.

So my question is: how much of what you're seeing is from (1) and (2),
and how much is from (3)? Because there are other ways to trigger (3),
such as lowering the window size. For example, if you try your same
packing example with --window=0, how do the CPU and output size compare
to the results of your series? (I'd also check peak memory usage).

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-28 19:07 [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 01/24] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:08     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 02/24] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:11     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12  7:04   ` Jeff King
2023-12-12 16:48     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/24] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-12  7:04   ` Jeff King
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/24] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:19     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/24] midx: implement `DISP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:27     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-03 13:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-05 19:26     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-09  1:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-09  2:30         ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12  8:03           ` Jeff King
2023-12-13 18:28             ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-13 19:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/24] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/24] midx: implement `--retain-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:29     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01  8:02       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/24] pack-objects: implement `--ignore-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:32     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01  8:17       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-01 19:58         ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/24] repack: implement `--extend-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:28     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08  8:19       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-08 22:48         ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-11  8:18           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-11 19:59             ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/24] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:34     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08  8:19       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 11/24] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 14:36     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 12/24] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 13/24] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 14/24] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:43     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 15/24] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 16/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:47     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 17/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 18/24] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 19/24] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 20/24] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 21/24] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 22/24] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 23/24] pack-bitmap: reuse objects from all disjoint packs Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 24/24] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:39   ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01  8:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-01 20:02       ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-04  8:49         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-12  8:12 ` Jeff King [this message]
2023-12-15 15:37   ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 11:13     ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:22       ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 01/26] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 02/26] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 03/26] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 04/26] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 05/26] midx: implement `BTMP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 06/26] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 07/26] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 08/26] ewah: implement `bitmap_is_empty()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 09/26] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 10/26] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 11/26] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 12/26] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 13/26] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 14/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 15/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 16/26] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 17/26] git-compat-util.h: implement checked size_t to uint32_t conversion Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 18/26] midx: implement `midx_preferred_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 19/26] pack-revindex: factor out `midx_key_to_pack_pos()` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 20/26] pack-revindex: implement `midx_pair_to_pack_pos()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 21/26] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 22/26] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 23/26] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 24/26] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 25/26] pack-bitmap: enable reuse from all bitmapped packs Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 26/26] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-15  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 00/26] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15  0:38     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-15  0:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15  1:25       ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 10:51         ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:24           ` Taylor Blau

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