From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Jeff Hostetler <jeffhost@microsoft.com>,
Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/21] C99: show meaningful <file>:<line> in trace2 via macros
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:58:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <211116.86czmzq5w2.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YZP771pJl30ujluT@nand.local>
On Tue, Nov 16 2021, Taylor Blau wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:18:10PM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> Since everyone's getting in on the C99 fun.
>>
>> Well, $subject and a bit more. This RFC series has bits and pieces
>> from thing I've submitted before. I'd proposed to make variadic macros
>> a hard dependency before in [1] because I wanted to get to the goal in
>> $subject, perhaps the whole thing will be more convincing.
>>
>> This also includes the die_message() in a recent series of mine[2]
>> that I abandoned.
>>
>> At the end of this series we expose a config variable to have
>> usage/die/warning emit line numbers. I.e. going from:
>>
>> $ git -c core.usageAddSource=false -c core.x=y config --get --bool core.x
>> fatal: bad boolean config value 'y' for 'core.x'
>>
>> To:
>>
>> $ git -c core.usageAddSource=false -c core.x=y config --get --bool core.x
>> fatal: config.c:1241: bad boolean config value 'y' for 'core.x'
>
> Just picking on this output change in particular. I agree that this is
> easier for folks hacking on Git to trace down errors. But I'm not sure
> that I could say then same about users, who will likely treat this extra
> output as noise.
>
> Now we may find it helpful if they include it in a bug report, but I
> feel reasonably comfortable saying that the value there is pretty
> marginal. I don't find it all that problematic to grep for a specific
> error string, and usually find myself in the right place.
I wouldn't suggest exposing this to users, except perhaps as part of
some "how to submit a bugreport" instructions. It's thoroughly optional.
I thought it was easy enough to do with the preceding steps since all
the data is there, and would help my workflow a lot.
If you've got the file/line number like that you can make it clickable
in your terminal/compile mode, e.g. Emacs's M-x compile. Saves time over
having to grep manually select the string, grep for it etc.
Anyway, I can certainly live with peeling this patch off the end and
just stopping at the trace2 data for now, if you/others feel strongly
about it.
>> I find that to make tracing down errors in the test suite, and 21/21
>> has a GIT_TEST_* mode to turn it on there (which fails a lot now, but
>> I'm hoping I'll eventually get passing).
>>
>> But most importantly we've now got meaningful file/line numbers in
>> trace2 error events. I.e. from all of them being some line in usage.c:
>>
>> $ GIT_TRACE2_EVENT=/dev/stdout ~/g/git/git -c core.usageAddSource=false -c core.x=y config --get --bool core.x 2>&1 2>/dev/null|grep error | jq -r .
>> {
>> "event": "error",
>> "sid": "20211115T221343.534151Z-Hc2f5b994-P003f3980",
>> "thread": "main",
>> "time": "2021-11-15T22:13:43.537981Z",
>> "file": "usage.c",
>> "line": 65,
>> "msg": "bad boolean config value 'y' for 'core.x'",
>> "fmt": "bad boolean config value '%s' for '%s'"
>> }
>>
>> To:
>>
>> $ GIT_TRACE2_EVENT=/dev/stdout ~/g/git/git -c core.usageAddSource=false -c core.x=y config --get --bool core.x 2>&1 2>/dev/null|grep error | jq -r .
>> {
>> "event": "error",
>> "sid": "20211115T221357.083824Z-Hc2f5b994-P003f4a82",
>> "thread": "main",
>> "time": "2021-11-15T22:13:57.087596Z",
>> "file": "config.c",
>> "line": 1241,
>> "msg": "bad boolean config value 'y' for 'core.x'",
>> "fmt": "bad boolean config value '%s' for '%s'"
>> }
>
> Neat. This is a use-case that has all of the value without putting it in
> front of users all of the time. I like it.
>
>> This is "RFC" mainly because there's a CI failure in 0061.2 with this,
>> I still can't figure out what that's about (or if it's some fluke
>> unrelated to this topic), but that has to be investigated.
>
> Hmm. Putting the CI failures aside for a second, wouldn't we want to
> hold off on something like this until we have flown the C99 weather
> balloon for a while? If we suddenly start introducing C99-isms into the
> code while brian's patch is still young, then we can suddenly no longer
> say, "oh, just drop this #if because there are no other C99-specific
> uses here", and instead compilers that don't support the newer standard
> are out of luck.
>
> That may have been already communicated elsewhere in this message and/or
> throughout your patch series, so if I missed it, I apologize. Just
> felt that it was worth stating the obvious before we go too far down the
> wrong path.
As noted in 02/21 we're hard depending on this particular C99 feature
already fon a few releases now, the only change on that front in this
series is to stop committing to maintaining the non-C99 codepaths.
We've already had hard dependencies on various bits of C99 for years now
without any trouble, and I wouldn't expect any problems on this front
either.
Brian's series and the current weatherbaloon from Junio are a bit
different in trying out new things we either haven't done before, or
have run into some trouble with in the past.
No need at all to apologize, it's a lot of patches, and raising this
sort of thing is what patch review is good for.
Thanks a lot for looking this over.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-16 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-15 22:18 [RFC PATCH 00/21] C99: show meaningful <file>:<line> in trace2 via macros Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 01/21] git-compat-util.h: clarify GCC v.s. C99-specific in comment Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 02/21] C99 support: hard-depend on C99 variadic macros Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 03/21] usage.c: add a die_message() routine Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 04/21] usage.c API users: use die_message() where appropriate Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 05/21] usage.c + gc: add and use a die_message_errno() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 06/21] config API: don't use vreportf(), make it static in usage.c Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 07/21] common-main.c: call exit(), don't return Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 08/21] usage.c: add a non-fatal bug() function to go with BUG() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 09/21] parse-options.[ch] API: use bug() to improve error output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 10/21] receive-pack: use bug() and BUG_if_bug() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 11/21] cache-tree.c: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 12/21] pack-objects: use BUG(...) not die("BUG: ...") Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 13/21] strbuf.h: " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 14/21] usage API: create a new usage.h, move API docs there Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 15/21] usage.[ch] API users: use report_fn, not hardcoded prototype Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 16/21] usage.[ch] API: rename "warn" vars functions to "warning" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 17/21] usage.c: move usage routines around Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 18/21] usage.c: move rename variables in " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 19/21] usage API: use C99 macros for {usage,usagef,die,error,warning,die}*() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-27 19:32 ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-12-27 23:01 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-28 16:32 ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-12-28 18:51 ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-28 23:48 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-29 2:15 ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-28 23:42 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-29 16:13 ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 20/21] usage API: make the "{usage,fatal,error,warning,BUG}: " translatable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:18 ` [RFC PATCH 21/21] usage API: add "core.usageAddSource" config to add <file>:<line> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-16 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] C99: show meaningful <file>:<line> in trace2 via macros Taylor Blau
2021-11-16 18:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-11-16 19:36 ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-16 20:16 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
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