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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com, me@ttaylorr.com,
	vdye@github.com, steadmon@google.com,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] log: create tighter default decoration filter
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 16:44:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220726.86tu73ncf8.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.1301.git.1658844250.gitgitgadget@gmail.com>


On Tue, Jul 26 2022, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote:

> This was previously reduced by adding the log.excludeDecoration config
> option and modifying that config in git maintenance's prefetch task (to hide
> refs/prefetch/*). I then followed that pattern again for the bundle URI
> feature [1], but this caught some reviewers by surprise as an unfortunate
> side-effect. This series is a way to roll back the previous decision to use
> log.excludeDecoration and instead use tighter filters by default.
>
> As noted in the last patch, the current design ignores the new filters if
> there are any previously-specified filters. This includes the
> log.excludeDecorations=refs/prefetch/ set by the git maintenance command.
> This means that users who ran that command in their repo will not get the
> benefits of the more strict filters. While we stop writing
> log.excludeDecorations, we don't remove existing instances of it.

Leaving aside the question of these magic refs, and if we need new ones
(e.g. refs/bundle/*) I have sometimes made use of out-of-standard
refspace refs.

E.g. when I build git I create refs/built-tags/* tag object refs
(i.e. not in refs/tags/*), which is a neat way to get "git tag -l" and
the like to ignore it.

But to still have it show decorated in logs (e.g. I'll see what my
"private" branch is at), and "for-each-ref --contains" still knows about
it.

Now, that's a rather obscure use-case, and I suspect other "special
refs" are similarly obscure (e.g. GitLab's refs/keep-around/* comes to
mind).

But I think this change is going about it the wrong way, let's have a
list of refs that Git knows about as magical, instead of assuming that
we can ignore everything that's not on a small list of things we're
including.

Wouldn't that give you what you want, and not exclude these sorts of
custom refs unexpectedly for users?

> I'm interested if anyone has another way around this issue, or if we
> consider adding the default filter as long as no --decorate=refs options are
> specified.

I think the resulting UX here is bad, in that we ship hardcoded list of
these if you don't specify the config in 2/3. So I can do:

      -c log.excludeDecoration=this-will-never-match

To "clear" the list, but not this:

      -c log.excludeDecoration=

Which we usually have as a synonym for "false", is it just adding a
prefix of "" that matches everything to my exclusion list (but HEAD
still shows up...).

Speaking of funny refnames isn't your:

	git -c log.excludeDecoration=HEAD log

Going to exclude refs like "HEAD/foo/bar" too? I.e. it's always a
prefix.

I suspect a much better way out of this, which I think fixes the problem
you're raising here is:

	log.useBuiltinDecorationExclusions=[bool]

Or whatever, i.e. we ship a hardcoded list of exclusions.

Leaving aside whether that's a blacklist or whitelist, or whether we
turn that to "true" or "false" by default it wouldn't have the behavior
of "flushing out" the built-in config.

Another way of doing that if you really want to use one variable would
be to have:

      -c log.excludeDecoration=foo

Add to the built-in list, but:

      -c log.excludeDecoration=
      -c log.excludeDecoration=foo

clear it, we have a couple of other list config variables that work that
way.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-26 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-26 14:04 [PATCH 0/3] log: create tighter default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 15:10   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 13:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] log: add default " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 14:39   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 13:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 15:04   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-27 14:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-27 19:07     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-27 19:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 20:32     ` Jeff King
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-27 14:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-26 14:44 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-07-26 16:38   ` [PATCH 0/3] log: create tighter default decoration filter Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 18:19     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-27 13:41       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-27 20:40         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 19:29 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:22       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] t4207: test coloring of grafted decorations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:25     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-03  6:44       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-03 13:03         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04  4:05           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-04 17:23             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-05 14:21               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] refs: add array of ref namespaces Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:29       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 16:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-03 22:39     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:29       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] refs: use ref_namespaces for replace refs base Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03 22:38     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:30       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] log-tree: use ref_namespaces instead of if/else-if Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 14:34         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 14:50           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 17:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 20:17               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] log: add default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  7:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-05 14:27       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-05 14:50         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-05 15:09           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-11 19:30             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-12 19:37               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] log: add --decorate-all option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04 16:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] log: create log.decorateFilter=all Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03 22:42     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:38       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] fetch: use ref_namespaces during prefetch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] log: create tighter default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] t4207: modernize test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] t4207: test coloring of grafted decorations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] refs: add array of ref namespaces Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] refs: use ref_namespaces for replace refs base Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] log-tree: use ref_namespaces instead of if/else-if Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] log: add default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-09-08 21:13       ` Glen Choo
2022-09-09 12:23         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-09 16:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-09 16:40             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-09 17:41               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-09 17:12             ` Glen Choo
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] log: add --clear-decorations option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] log: create log.initialDecorationSet=all Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] fetch: use ref_namespaces during prefetch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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