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From: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Ben Peart <Ben.Peart@microsoft.com>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	jeffhost@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] unpack-trees: add performance tracing
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:11:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33dff7ef-e68b-91aa-22b8-e35947e4f7b8@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGZ79kYLpCZ=JNO7eun3mrhui+rymzr3i-VMLyFvKCxOaFNe-A@mail.gmail.com>



On 8/13/2018 3:36 PM, Stefan Beller wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:25 PM Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> 
>> I can buy the argument that it's nice to have some form of profiling
>> that works everywhere, even if it's lowest-common-denominator. I just
>> wonder if we could be investing effort into tooling around existing
>> solutions that will end up more powerful and flexible in the long run.
> 
> The issue AFAICT is that running perf is done by $YOU, the specialist,
> whereas the performance framework put into place here can be
> "turned on for the whole fleet" and the ability to collect data from
> non-specialists is there. (Note: At GitHub you do the serving side,
> whereas Google, MS also control the shipped binary on the client
> side; asking a random engineer to run perf on their Git thing only
> helps their special case and is unstructured; what helps is colorful
> dashboards aggregating all the results from all the people).
> 
> So it really is "works everywhere," but not as you envisioned
> (cross platform vs more machines) ;-)
> 

I currently use GIT_TRACE_PERFORMANCE primarily to communicate 
performance measurements on the mailing list.  While it is convenient 
occasionally to run with it turned on locally, primarily it gives me a 
common reference when communicating with others on the list about 
performance.

We have several excellent profiling tools available on Windows 
(perfview, VS, wpa, etc) so for any detailed investigations, I use 
those.  They obviously don't require any instrumenting in the code.

For our internal end user performance data, we'll use structured logging 
and our custom telemetry solution rather than the GIT_TRACE_PERFORMANCE 
mechanism.  We never ask end users to turn on GIT_TRACE_PERFORMANCE.  If 
we need more than what we can gather using telemetry, we ask them to 
capture a perfview along with other diagnostic data and send it to us 
for evaluation.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-13 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-18 20:45 [PATCH v1 0/3] [RFC] Speeding up checkout (and merge, rebase, etc) Ben Peart
2018-07-18 20:45 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] add unbounded Multi-Producer-Multi-Consumer queue Ben Peart
2018-07-18 20:57   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-19 19:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 20:45 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] add performance tracing around traverse_trees() in unpack_trees() Ben Peart
2018-07-18 20:45 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] Add initial parallel version of unpack_trees() Ben Peart
2018-07-18 22:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 21:02 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] [RFC] Speeding up checkout (and merge, rebase, etc) Stefan Beller
2018-07-18 21:34 ` Jeff King
2018-07-23 15:48   ` Ben Peart
2018-07-23 17:03     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-23 20:51       ` Ben Peart
2018-07-24  4:20         ` Jeff King
2018-07-24 15:33           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-25 20:56             ` Ben Peart
2018-07-26  5:30               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-26 16:30                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-26 19:40                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 15:42                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-27 16:22                       ` Ben Peart
2018-07-27 18:00                         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-27 17:14                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-27 17:52                         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-29  6:24                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-29 10:33                       ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Speed up unpack_trees() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-07-29 10:33                         ` [PATCH v2 1/4] unpack-trees.c: add performance tracing Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-07-30 20:16                           ` Ben Peart
2018-07-29 10:33                         ` [PATCH v2 2/4] unpack-trees: optimize walking same trees with cache-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-07-30 20:52                           ` Ben Peart
2018-07-29 10:33                         ` [PATCH v2 3/4] unpack-trees: reduce malloc in cache-tree walk Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-07-30 20:58                           ` Ben Peart
2018-07-29 10:33                         ` [PATCH v2 4/4] unpack-trees: cheaper index update when walking by cache-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-08 18:46                           ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-10 16:39                             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-10 18:39                               ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-10 19:30                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-10 19:40                                   ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-10 19:48                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-30 18:10                         ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Speed up unpack_trees() Ben Peart
2018-07-31 15:31                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-31 16:50                             ` Ben Peart
2018-07-31 17:31                               ` Ben Peart
2018-08-01 16:38                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-08 20:53                                   ` Ben Peart
2018-08-09  8:16                                     ` Ben Peart
2018-08-10 16:08                                       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-10 15:51                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-30 21:04                         ` Ben Peart
2018-08-04  5:37                         ` [PATCH v3 " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-04  5:37                           ` [PATCH v3 1/4] unpack-trees: add performance tracing Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-04  5:37                           ` [PATCH v3 2/4] unpack-trees: optimize walking same trees with cache-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-08 18:23                             ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-10 16:29                               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-10 18:48                                 ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-04  5:37                           ` [PATCH v3 3/4] unpack-trees: reduce malloc in cache-tree walk Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-08 18:30                             ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-04  5:37                           ` [PATCH v3 4/4] unpack-trees: cheaper index update when walking by cache-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-06 15:48                           ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Speed up unpack_trees() Junio C Hamano
2018-08-06 15:59                             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-06 18:59                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-08 17:00                                 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-08 17:46                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-08 18:12                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-08 18:39                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 16:53                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-12  8:15                           ` [PATCH v4 0/5] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-12  8:15                             ` [PATCH v4 1/5] trace.h: support nested performance tracing Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-13 18:39                               ` Ben Peart
2018-08-12  8:15                             ` [PATCH v4 2/5] unpack-trees: add " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-12 10:05                               ` Thomas Adam
2018-08-13 18:50                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-13 18:44                               ` Ben Peart
2018-08-13 19:25                               ` Jeff King
2018-08-13 19:36                                 ` Stefan Beller
2018-08-13 20:11                                   ` Ben Peart [this message]
2018-08-13 19:52                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-13 21:47                                   ` Jeff King
2018-08-13 22:41                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-14 18:19                                   ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-14 18:32                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-14 18:44                                       ` Stefan Beller
2018-08-14 18:51                                         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-14 19:54                                           ` Jeff King
2018-08-14 20:52                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-15 16:32                                             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-15 18:28                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-14 20:14                                         ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-12  8:15                             ` [PATCH v4 3/5] unpack-trees: optimize walking same trees with cache-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-13 18:58                               ` Ben Peart
2018-08-15 16:38                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-12  8:15                             ` [PATCH v4 4/5] unpack-trees: reduce malloc in cache-tree walk Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-12  8:15                             ` [PATCH v4 5/5] unpack-trees: reuse (still valid) cache-tree from src_index Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-13 15:48                               ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-13 15:57                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-13 16:05                                 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-13 16:25                                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-13 17:15                                     ` Ben Peart
2018-08-13 19:01                             ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Speed up unpack_trees() Junio C Hamano
2018-08-14 19:19                             ` Ben Peart
2018-08-18 14:41                             ` [PATCH v5 0/7] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-18 14:41                               ` [PATCH v5 1/7] trace.h: support nested performance tracing Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-18 14:41                               ` [PATCH v5 2/7] unpack-trees: add " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-18 14:41                               ` [PATCH v5 3/7] unpack-trees: optimize walking same trees with cache-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-20 12:43                                 ` Ben Peart
2018-08-18 14:41                               ` [PATCH v5 4/7] unpack-trees: reduce malloc in cache-tree walk Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-18 14:41                               ` [PATCH v5 5/7] unpack-trees: reuse (still valid) cache-tree from src_index Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-18 14:41                               ` [PATCH v5 6/7] unpack-trees: add missing cache invalidation Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-18 14:41                               ` [PATCH v5 7/7] cache-tree: verify valid cache-tree in the test suite Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-18 21:45                                 ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-18 22:01                               ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Speed up unpack_trees() Elijah Newren
2018-08-19  5:09                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-25 12:18                               ` [PATCH] Document update for nd/unpack-trees-with-cache-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-25 12:31                                 ` Martin Ågren
2018-08-25 13:02                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-07-27 15:50                     ` [PATCH v1 0/3] [RFC] Speeding up checkout (and merge, rebase, etc) Ben Peart
2018-07-26 16:35               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-24  5:54         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-24 15:13         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-24 21:21           ` Jeff King
2018-07-25 16:09           ` Ben Peart
2018-07-24  4:27       ` Jeff King

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