From: Whinis <Whinis@whinis.com>
To: alexsmith@gmail.com
Cc: don@goodman-wilson.com, git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com,
sandals@crustytoothpaste.net, sergio.a.vianna@gmail.com,
simon@bocoup.com
Subject: Re: Rename offensive terminology (master)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:38:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3cd5d8b9-a9f8-fbd1-f218-622f70e45566@whinis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c0c2d9ad-1d67-8ebe-0063-524005ca97fe@whinis.com>
> Whether or not any patch would be accepted, the damage is already done.
> From now on, people will judge you if you dare to use the name "master" anywhere
> and this is incredibly sad. These people are literally bullying us into
> submission in the name of political correctness where no harm was actually
> done.
>
> This sickens me.
Not just that, any twitter use can complain and get entire communities
to throw out all rules on changes to appear to be on the "right" side.
If anyone submitted a patch to change any functioning name without good
reason, especially one assumed to never change and would likely break a
significant number of external processes it would be denied without
second thought. Here the entire thread didn't ask should we change it
but instead started on the premise, even though this is documented
throughout the world and millions or even billions of scripts and
programs assume it to be constant, it must change without discussion.
Not just that the entire process has become a laughing stock that the
tech community seriously believes anyone has a problem with 'master' but
even worse that it will somehow fix something in the world. You can find
no shortages of post on forums and websites of people wondering what
exactly is trying to be accomplished.While not done here presumably due
to being more difficult to access, every other venue of commenting has
been either ignored (e.g. twitter) or closed to discussion under the
premise its becoming to aggressive to argue against. This thread is not
much better quickly coming to a decision that its not IF it should
change but WHAT it should change to.
What reason could possibly be good enough to break backward
compatibility with itself, break assumed standards of interaction with
the software, and all without major review process? I have seen critical
security patches with more insight than how quickly this word change is
being pushed through both here and other locations.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-16 11:38 UTC|newest]
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2020-05-04 17:20 Rename offensive terminology (master) Simon Pieters
2020-05-04 17:43 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-05-04 23:10 ` N6Ghost
2020-05-04 17:45 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-05-04 18:31 ` Simon Pieters
2020-05-04 17:53 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-05-04 18:18 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-05-05 23:16 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-09 15:16 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-09 16:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 16:28 ` demerphq
2020-06-09 18:10 ` Johannes Sixt
2020-06-09 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 20:52 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-09 21:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 21:29 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-10 9:51 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-06-10 11:16 ` Kevin Swinton
2020-06-10 12:18 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-10 16:30 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 0:03 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 0:00 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 0:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 0:50 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 6:32 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 6:34 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 8:47 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-14 8:48 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-14 12:07 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 7:31 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 8:38 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 19:33 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-17 1:17 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-17 7:45 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 10:04 ` Alex Smith
2020-06-16 11:29 ` Konstantin Tokarev
2020-06-16 11:39 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-06-16 11:39 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 7:27 ` Sergey Organov
[not found] ` <c0c2d9ad-1d67-8ebe-0063-524005ca97fe@whinis.com>
2020-06-16 11:38 ` Whinis [this message]
2020-06-16 12:16 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 13:30 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 13:55 ` John Turner
2020-06-16 14:14 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-16 14:29 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 16:19 ` Alex Smith
2020-06-16 15:49 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 16:09 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 14:24 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 14:27 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 16:03 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 17:27 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 17:42 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 18:35 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-16 19:03 ` Oleg
2020-06-09 16:06 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-09 19:01 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 0:05 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:08 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-14 8:49 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 19:17 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 2:16 ` Taylor Blau
2020-06-15 2:54 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-09 22:36 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-16 8:50 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-10 21:30 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-10 22:35 ` Edward Thomson
2020-06-10 22:51 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-11 11:52 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-11 11:59 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-11 12:52 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-11 15:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 2:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-15 10:07 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-12 13:21 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-14 0:41 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-14 10:54 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-14 12:20 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 13:58 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 14:05 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 3:52 ` Andrew Ardill
2020-06-15 4:45 ` J. Paul Reed
2020-06-15 5:19 ` Andrew Ardill
2020-06-17 8:27 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-14 18:19 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 18:23 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:04 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 19:08 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:16 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 20:41 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-16 7:36 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 7:43 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-16 8:01 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 8:59 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-17 19:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-17 20:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-17 20:17 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-18 7:57 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 8:38 ` Oleg
2020-06-18 10:17 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 15:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-18 7:40 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 18:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 21:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 21:15 ` Eric Wong
2020-06-14 21:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-15 18:07 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-15 18:18 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
[not found] ` <CAAwdEzDgJuoQJAZsrT0piuZPVP6nJTSB9RCbcuXO03-BYTnmOQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-06-15 19:37 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 19:50 ` Alexandru Pătrănescu
2020-06-15 20:44 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-15 20:42 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-06-15 0:34 ` James Ramsay
2020-06-15 21:38 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-15 21:46 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-16 21:07 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-17 7:49 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 20:48 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-18 8:28 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 20:52 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-13 23:56 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-13 23:53 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 14:59 ` Thomas Adam
2020-06-14 8:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 15:13 ` Michael Felt (aixtools)
2020-06-14 8:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 15:51 ` George Of The Jungle
2020-06-14 15:20 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 0:02 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 14:39 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 14:39 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 23:15 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 1:00 ` Fang-Pen Lin
2020-06-16 1:38 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-21 19:50 ` Social Justice Movements [was: Rename offensive terminology (master)] Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-23 23:21 ` Rename offensive terminology (master) Gunnar Liljas
2020-06-24 1:16 ` Whinis
2020-06-24 8:19 ` lego_12239
2020-06-26 10:08 ` Gunnar Liljas
2020-06-26 10:34 ` Oleg
2020-06-14 15:09 Michael Felt (aixtools)
2020-06-15 21:05 frederik
2020-06-16 0:16 Abram Wiebe
2020-06-16 0:23 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-16 12:54 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 15:53 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-17 11:34 Alastair Houghton
2020-06-17 11:49 ` Oleg
[not found] ` <CAGqqT2w=ntxd6RNkpy175TbgiudUSOc0tAPoDsbjv=4V+73cXw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAGqqT2zFkCUTdUnzdp4oTR2cnxBpKeY-EZtxacLLVDsF8Jiekw@mail.gmail.com>
2020-06-17 12:27 ` Zac McChesney
[not found] <'CAOAHyQyn_ow7_nCJ+Jorr76_=1=_kuBAD1KhqReqVfRQQbmgiw@mail.gmail.com'>
2020-06-26 18:37 ` Neil Stoddard
2020-06-29 8:59 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-08-08 3:46 Jefferson Carpenter
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