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From: Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>
To: "W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Marat Radchenko <marat@slonopotamus.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: Pull is Evil
Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 14:04:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53628CB1.8010302@xiplink.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140501175623.GY6227@odin.tremily.us>

On 14-05-01 01:56 PM, W. Trevor King wrote:
> On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 11:20:44AM -0400, Marc Branchaud wrote:
>> On 14-05-01 05:46 AM, brian m. carlson wrote:
>>>   git checkout maintenance-branch
>>>   # Update our maintenance branch to the latest from the main repo.
>>>   git pull --ff-only
>>>   git pull --no-ff developer-remote topic-branch
>>>   git push main-repo HEAD
>>
>> …
>> What's more, it seems to me that the only real advantage "git pull" provides
>> here is a less typing compared to the non-pull equivalent:
>>
>>   git fetch main-repo
>>   git checkout main-repo/maintenance-branch
>>   git fetch developer-remote
>>   git merge --no-ff developer-remote/topic-branch
>>   git push main-repo HEAD
> 
> You're missing Brian's fast-forward merge here.  It should be:
> 
>   git checkout maintenance-branch
>   git fetch main-repo
>   git merge --ff-only main-repo/maintenance-branch
>   git fetch developer-remote
>   …

I think you're mistaken -- I checked out "main-repo/maintenance-branch"
directly, so there's no need to fast-forward a local branch.

>> Sure, the non-pull approach makes use of Scary Branch Stuff (remotes
>> and namespaces and detached HEADs -- oh my!).
> 
> No need for detached heads with Brian's local maintenance-branch.

Yes.  OTOH, no need to bother keeping a local maintenance-branch up to date
if you use a detached HEAD.

> If
> you're teaching and just need folks merging the remote's HEAD, you
> can avoid namespaces and remotes entirely:
> 
>   git fetch git://example.net/main-repo.git
>   git merge --ff-only FETCH_HEAD
> 
> although I doubt “the remote's HEAD” will be easier to explain than
> the namespaced, remote-tracking branches it replaces.  It's certainly
> not worth the hassle of un-training FETCH_HEAD-merges later on ;).

Agreed.  I wouldn't advocate teaching people about FETCH_HEAD as if it were
something they should use regularly.

		M.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-01 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-28  6:29 A failing attempt to use Git in a centralized environment Marat Radchenko
2014-04-28 18:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30 14:21   ` Pull is Evil (was: Re: A failing attempt to use Git in a centralized environment) Marc Branchaud
2014-04-30 14:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30 19:45       ` Pull is Evil Marc Branchaud
2014-04-30 20:01         ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-30 20:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30 21:48           ` Marc Branchaud
2014-05-02  7:40           ` Andreas Krey
2014-05-02  8:46             ` David Kastrup
2014-05-03  6:17               ` Andreas Krey
2014-05-03  6:55                 ` David Kastrup
2014-04-30 20:14         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-30 22:06           ` Marc Branchaud
2014-04-30 22:25             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01  9:46               ` brian m. carlson
2014-05-01 10:48                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 15:16                   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-01 19:16                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 19:48                       ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-01 20:07                         ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-01 23:25                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02  0:02                             ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-02  0:37                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02  1:10                                 ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-02  1:14                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 14:54                                     ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-02 18:55                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 19:07                                         ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-02 19:10                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-05-02 19:13                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 19:46                                             ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-02 20:34                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 21:13                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-02 21:18                                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 22:01                                                     ` pull.prompt or other way to slow/disable 'git pull' (was: Pull is Evil) W. Trevor King
2014-05-02 22:20                                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03  0:05                                                         ` pull.prompt or other way to slow/disable 'git pull' W. Trevor King
2014-05-03  9:50                                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04 18:51                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-04 20:54                                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 23:20                         ` Re: Pull is Evil Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 15:20                 ` Marc Branchaud
2014-05-01 17:56                   ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-01 18:04                     ` Marc Branchaud [this message]
2014-05-01 18:30                       ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-01 20:21                         ` Marc Branchaud
2014-05-01 23:28                           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02  7:16                           ` Andreas Krey
2014-05-02  8:14                             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 19:29                           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-02 19:53                             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-01 23:45                       ` brian m. carlson
2014-05-01 23:39                         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 19:22                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 19:43                     ` Marc Branchaud
2014-05-01 19:27                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 21:06         ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-01 21:16           ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-01 23:34           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-01 23:59             ` W. Trevor King
2014-05-02  0:31               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-30 16:47     ` Pull is Evil (was: Re: A failing attempt to use Git in a centralized environment) Felipe Contreras
2014-04-30 17:09       ` Pull is Evil Matthieu Moy
2014-04-30 18:31         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-30 19:10           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30 19:32             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-30 19:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30 20:11                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-30 16:12 ` A failing attempt to use Git in a centralized environment Stepan Kasal
2014-04-30 17:15 ` Geert Bosch
2014-05-04  8:58   ` John Szakmeister
2014-05-02 20:56 ` Max Kirillov

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