From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Felipe Contreras Subject: Re: Pull is Mostly Evil Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 18:27:37 -0500 Message-ID: <536429e97cf5a_200c12912f094@nysa.notmuch> References: <5363BB9F.40102@xiplink.com> <5363edc954f8e_70ef0f30c24@nysa.notmuch> <20140502214817.GA10801@sigill.intra.peff.net> <536414352fa24_1976139f2f0f9@nysa.notmuch> <20140502223612.GA11374@sigill.intra.peff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Junio C Hamano , Marc Branchaud , Git Mailing List To: Jeff King , Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat May 03 01:38:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WgN24-0004JG-7d for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sat, 03 May 2014 01:38:20 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752586AbaEBXiQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 May 2014 19:38:16 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com ([209.85.214.182]:65066 "EHLO mail-ob0-f182.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751366AbaEBXiQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 May 2014 19:38:16 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wn1so1170749obc.41 for ; Fri, 02 May 2014 16:38:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vf/GKjlyDtNlWe2e8DU37/gkvQZmPqL4NE2dDwwo+6A=; b=FqrD9Yh5mB9vvyEckq5jiVqxM/pPdmaln03msxNld7Ky/r9C9DMbGZBP/tcztfcrqo 0zZW07mDQ/jaPolyZxWuLQCP6ccawT5S/AFGpvI+j5u82p1+vCfzCrqDlNNtdO1IftL6 wdTYzzR9pcY8t5blmJ8U8AECdzAYt9iFeSAng52z4lli51luE9x737eKqe5IdNdTb4dc WwcGwuezHv5DDxxL7BDnXt7NaMiXwsYu4hWrP2KfR+eGGz19zdr8/CK75YgZsw0e5YtY eBfhg74J5FVGIFLSiR4iDPikk9TYgLQjBiPJS7yp5RZxd4K6dR9SOflK7pWRjYKCw6aA gfsQ== X-Received: by 10.182.75.225 with SMTP id f1mr4037434obw.66.1399073895722; Fri, 02 May 2014 16:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (189-211-224-40.static.axtel.net. [189.211.224.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dh8sm1992130oeb.10.2014.05.02.16.38.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 May 2014 16:38:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140502223612.GA11374@sigill.intra.peff.net> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Jeff King wrote: > On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 04:55:01PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > > They can do: > > > > % git pull origin master > > > > That shouldn't revese the bases. > > Then they have to remember to do that every time, no? That seems a > little error-prone versus setting a config option. Yes. However, since not many people do this, and they don't do it that often that's not a big deal. It's much more important to fix the issue the vast majority of users face constantly. > > > Such users are going to run "git pull origin master" or just "git pull" > > > to get that merge. > > > > I'd say the vast majority of users running "git pull" want the parents > > reversed, the minority that doesn't can switch to "git pull origin > > master" (or add a configuration). > > I'm not sure I agree, but I don't think either of us has actual data. Do you want me to go dig in the mailing list and point you to the endless discussions? I assure you, if this is not changed, we will have this discussion again. > > Most likely the consensus and the proposals will be ignored and nothing > > will change as usual, but that's a different thing. > > Is it truly necessary to make sniping comments like this at the end of > each email? It _is_ being discussed right now, and these comments do > nothing except irritate your readers. Please stop. And it has been discussed before. If history is any indication, it will be discussed again. -- Felipe Contreras