From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05D4C4361B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 03:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85286206E5 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 03:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726241AbgLODXk (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:23:40 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:52706 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726883AbgLODXU (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:23:20 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-x344.google.com (mail-ot1-x344.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::344]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0986C061793 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-x344.google.com with SMTP id d8so18029479otq.6 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:22:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AJ1JZ5G6FdkLKsVmh4Id2OQfFQ3nlZ2j2aBovS+WVuI=; b=snM13diXFxswTvv8K0dvH1jJPQSdtRNDrkHJ8PsDCilJBreMBI2WsxCPuMkItN3OCm gipuFNE3vHYH799ixfiA7uveiTQ6zvzA64fBSlvC8CqrlbU1V7by88JWU7A6Hi74bKOX leZtoQc4nqUXk4Uq55NfEbWweOgZCiedPVPD+PTtwp8ResMmGKcP4DW/k2UTPzcBODVM EBIYOA3AKQ6e4OzA783SUxzUFA9JfKu28od0IrNJh9umrPMfodtuoREZa4Pw0yHQKV/l XreCXY2BKVenl8KDRkmzu6Axnq8BZV5A++qK5ctDF2NqnA6W3opyxG3DMQ4hXJxa1I6O ZoCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AJ1JZ5G6FdkLKsVmh4Id2OQfFQ3nlZ2j2aBovS+WVuI=; b=WOO69X0/vgWyGGllalOkBsLfC7X+VMWd6+FdVeBnqlapy/A79G3yFg++z63q1w7xYV WbbuFbXSX0TH3r69vN4qAwsR8sragtJ1WllYRVQCqJ5yTrTA0FDJgJKdL641V/TEDziY /J0I7n0y3JXohp0BsFrNn342XHpeSn3cTxlC40dicxs+wsEqrkeuOmLj0YuE2NBO9q5b kW5JfhJAy8Ww0NupJ+vZnbl2Z/VMoMkvuLvCLffjAe54lCirfGvOn/s4eUWtwLKp3gs3 vuQL6ivsLfS6GkMjiMea20eX1+35A1uufpFs5lGLvDTc/LiAGnx8RxEChyS1Dnh54+2c D/6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532mj5JSRovSv70I0lvGLDZcHpaTlts0ywlvpGaEjeynfsDuaLLt 47ZqSIxs8tteDTJr3u0TAGw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwFxcjopw9Mymx1JxmAx9V1k3eqXMrc57fcTEkZ/hnew/DvYREYjizqOQlf/zEzrQI86HvH5Q== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7f81:: with SMTP id t1mr22207766otp.166.1608002560204; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (189-209-26-110.static.axtel.net. [189.209.26.110]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g200sm4702242oib.19.2020.12.14.19.22.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:22:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 21:22:38 -0600 From: Felipe Contreras To: =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , Junio C Hamano Cc: Jonathan Tan , git@vger.kernel.org, Felipe Contreras Message-ID: <5fd82bfe20d9c_d7c48208da@natae.notmuch> In-Reply-To: <878s9zx2ul.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> References: <20201208013121.677494-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> <20201211210508.2337494-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> <87blewwoil.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> <878s9zx2ul.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] clone: in protocol v2, use remote's default branch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org =C3=86var Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0 Bjarmason wrote: > To borrow from Felipe Contreras's reply in the side-thread "I expect th= e > branch name to be chosen by the person who created that repository". > = > I suppose this comes down to a mental model of what it means to have > "created a repository". When I click "create repo" on those popular > hosting sites (e.g. github & gitlab) and clone it I was expecting it to= > just be a shorthand init + a URL in my config (and refspecs...). Indeed. But then it would be *them* taking away agency from the user (by not allowing the user to choose the name of the branch), not us. In Spanish we have a saying: "don't give extra change", which is similar = to the lawyery advice: "don't volunteer [information]". Let's not volunteer user complaints. Let GitHub take some of those. -- = Felipe Contreras=