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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Mathias Kunter <mathiaskunter@gmail.com>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Ramkumar Ramachandra" <r@artagnon.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"Matthieu Moy" <git@matthieu-moy.fr>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: push: explain default=simple correctly
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 16:15:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60b55207adad1_36bff208c9@natae.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4bb335c-4909-8525-cbdb-bb214d18d8fd@gmail.com>

Mathias Kunter wrote:
> Am 31.05.21 um 19:31 schrieb Felipe Contreras:
> > Once those patches are merged, then I will probably send the one to
> > change the behavior.
> > 
> > I will include you in the Cc list when I do so.
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> > In my experience you need to convince either Junio Hamano, or Jeff King
> > for any change in behavior to happen, and until they do comment on this
> > one it's fair to say it won't happen.
> 
> I assume they are on this mailing list?

Of course, and they are also on the Cc list of this mail.

> I'd say it should be quite an argument if the related StackOverflow 
> question dealing with this exact issue is one of the top-voted git 
> questions of all time. [1]

That seems to be a different issue. Related, but not quite the same.

That question is answered at the time the user tries to make a push:

  fatal: The current branch fix-1 has no upstream branch.
  To push the current branch and set the remote as upstream, use

      git push --set-upstream origin fix-1

That's literally the top answer in SO.

> It seems that millions of developers (judging by the number of views of 
> that question) wonder what they need to do so that "git pull and git 
> push will work immediately" on a newly created local branch.

Yes, probably many people do wonder that, but not necessarily all of
them (at least of the ones that participatd in that SO question).

> If that would "just work" out of the box and with the default settings 
> of git, without having to read up the solution in StackOverflow first, 
> then it would certainly be an improvement for a huge number of people. 

I agree, but I have already tried to improve the interface in a number
of ways to no avail.

Inertia is a powerful force.

We'll see how this one goes.

Cheers.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-31 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-29  7:11 [PATCH v2 0/6] Unconvolutize push.default=simple Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] push: hedge code of default=simple Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  4:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  7:50     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] push: move code to setup_push_simple() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  5:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:03     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] push: reorganize setup_push_simple() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  5:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] push: simplify setup_push_simple() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  5:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] push: remove unused code in setup_push_upstream() Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:11 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: push: explain default=simple correctly Felipe Contreras
2021-05-30 18:19   ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-30 19:09     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  7:12       ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31 15:14         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31 16:54           ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31 17:31             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31 18:38               ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31 21:15                 ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2021-05-31 21:54                   ` Mathias Kunter
2021-05-31  5:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:11     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-01  9:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-01 12:12         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-01 15:57           ` Philip Oakley
2021-06-01 16:35             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-01 19:39               ` Philip Oakley
2021-06-01 23:53                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-01 19:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 00/15] push: revamp push.default Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 01/15] push: create new get_upstream_ref() helper Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 02/15] push: return immediately in trivial switch case Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 03/15] push: reorder switch cases Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:14     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 04/15] push: factor out null branch check Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 05/15] push: only get the branch when needed Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-31  8:16     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 06/15] push: make setup_push_* return the dst Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 07/15] push: trivial simplifications Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 08/15] push: get rid of all the setup_push_* functions Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 09/15] push: factor out the typical case Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 10/15] push: remove redundant check Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 11/15] push: fix Yoda condition Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 12/15] push: remove trivial function Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 13/15] push: only get triangular when needed Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  6:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 14/15] push: don't get a full remote object Felipe Contreras
2021-05-29  7:44 ` [PATCH 15/15] push: rename !triangular to same_remote Felipe Contreras
2021-05-31  7:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-29 20:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Unconvolutize push.default=simple Philip Oakley
2021-05-30 16:27   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-30 11:31 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-30 16:22   ` Felipe Contreras

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