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[187.190.78.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r2sm3289531otq.28.2021.05.31.14.15.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 31 May 2021 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 16:15:51 -0500 From: Felipe Contreras To: Mathias Kunter , Felipe Contreras , git@vger.kernel.org Cc: Elijah Newren , =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , Ramkumar Ramachandra , Jeff King , =?UTF-8?B?UmVuw6kgU2NoYXJmZQ==?= , Matthieu Moy , Junio C Hamano Message-ID: <60b55207adad1_36bff208c9@natae.notmuch> In-Reply-To: References: <20210529071115.1908310-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <20210529071115.1908310-7-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <60b3e2ceee840_ee4c20823@natae.notmuch> <3e5c2303-030e-928e-af57-8e2be8f3ce86@gmail.com> <60b4fd4db5dee_24d282088c@natae.notmuch> <5fa7e3f4-60a0-c3b1-83f2-054ed38e5683@gmail.com> <60b51d6c93c7d_279c820856@natae.notmuch> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: push: explain default=simple correctly Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Mathias Kunter wrote: > Am 31.05.21 um 19:31 schrieb Felipe Contreras: > > Once those patches are merged, then I will probably send the one to > > change the behavior. > > > > I will include you in the Cc list when I do so. > > Thank you very much. > > > In my experience you need to convince either Junio Hamano, or Jeff King > > for any change in behavior to happen, and until they do comment on this > > one it's fair to say it won't happen. > > I assume they are on this mailing list? Of course, and they are also on the Cc list of this mail. > I'd say it should be quite an argument if the related StackOverflow > question dealing with this exact issue is one of the top-voted git > questions of all time. [1] That seems to be a different issue. Related, but not quite the same. That question is answered at the time the user tries to make a push: fatal: The current branch fix-1 has no upstream branch. To push the current branch and set the remote as upstream, use git push --set-upstream origin fix-1 That's literally the top answer in SO. > It seems that millions of developers (judging by the number of views of > that question) wonder what they need to do so that "git pull and git > push will work immediately" on a newly created local branch. Yes, probably many people do wonder that, but not necessarily all of them (at least of the ones that participatd in that SO question). > If that would "just work" out of the box and with the default settings > of git, without having to read up the solution in StackOverflow first, > then it would certainly be an improvement for a huge number of people. I agree, but I have already tried to improve the interface in a number of ways to no avail. Inertia is a powerful force. We'll see how this one goes. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras