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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
	Matheus Tavares Bernardino <matheus.bernardino@usp.br>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] unpack-trees: make sparse aware
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:16:05 -0400
Message-ID: <74f21db2-d8ba-3aae-99f6-2712d581f2cb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BF0ZhbSs42R3Bw_r-hbhQ71qtbXSBqXdq0djyaan=8p=A@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/21/2021 2:56 PM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 10:27 AM Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alternatively, we can decide to change the behavior here and send an
>> error() and return failure if they try to add something that would
>> live within a sparse-directory entry. I will think more on this and
>> have a good answer before v2 is ready.
> 
> See my comments on 01/10; users are already getting surprised by "git
> add" today and has been going on for months (though not super
> frequently).  When they try to "git add" an untracked path that would
> not match any path specifications in $GIT_DIR/info/sparse-checkout,
> the fact that "git add" doesn't error out (or at the very least give a
> warning) causes _subsequent_ commands to surprise the user with their
> behavior; the fact that it is some later command that does weird stuff
> (removing the file from the working tree) makes it harder for them to
> try to understand and make sense of.  So, I'd say we do want to change
> the behavior here...and not just for sparse-indexes but
> sparse-checkouts in general.
> 
> As for how this affects the code, I think I'm behind both you and
> Matheus on understanding here, but I'm starting to think it was a good
> idea for me to spout my offhand comment on what looked like a funny
> code smell that I thought was unrelated to your patch.  Sounds like it
> is causing some good digging...I'll try to read up more on the results
> when you send v2.  :-)

I think there are enough strange thing happening with 'git add' that I
want to take some time to figure out the right approach here. In v2, I
will delete the changes to builtin/add.c and instead focus on making
'git status' faster with a sparse-index. The 'git add' improvements
will follow in another series after I take enough time to understand
all of these special modes.

I think this split is especially important if we decide that changing
the behavior is the best thing to do here.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply index

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-13 14:01 [PATCH 00/10] Sparse-index: integrate with status and add Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 01/10] t1092: add tests for status/add and sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-20 21:52   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21 13:21     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-21 15:14   ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-04-23 20:12     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 02/10] unpack-trees: make sparse aware Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-20 23:00   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21 13:41     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-21 16:11       ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-22  2:24         ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-04-21 17:27     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-21 18:55       ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-04-21 19:10         ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21 19:51           ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-04-21 18:56       ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-23 20:16         ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 03/10] dir.c: accept a directory as part of cone-mode patterns Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-20 23:21   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21 13:47     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 04/10] status: skip sparse-checkout percentage with sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-20 23:26   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21 13:51     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 05/10] status: use sparse-index throughout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-21  0:44   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21 13:55     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 06/10] dir: use expand_to_path() for sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-21  0:52   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21  0:53     ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-21 14:03       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 07/10] add: allow operating on a sparse-only index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 08/10] pathspec: stop calling ensure_full_index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-21  0:57   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 09/10] t7519: add sparse directories to FS monitor tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-13 14:01 ` [PATCH 10/10] fsmonitor: test with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-21  7:00   ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-13 20:45 ` [PATCH 00/10] Sparse-index: integrate with status and add Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-04-14 16:31   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-23 21:34 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Sparse-index: integrate with status Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] t1092: add tests for status/add and sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-13 12:40     ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2021-05-14 12:27       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] unpack-trees: preserve cache_bottom Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] unpack-trees: compare sparse directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-13  3:26     ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] unpack-trees: stop recursing into sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-13  3:31     ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] dir.c: accept a directory as part of cone-mode patterns Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] status: skip sparse-checkout percentage with sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] status: use sparse-index throughout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-04-23 21:34   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] fsmonitor: test with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-13  4:12   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Sparse-index: integrate with status Elijah Newren
2021-05-14 18:28     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-14 18:30   ` [PATCH v3 00/12] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 01/12] sparse-index: skip indexes with unmerged entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 02/12] sparse-index: include EXTENDED flag when expanding Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-18  1:33       ` Elijah Newren
2021-05-18 14:57         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-18 17:48           ` Elijah Newren
2021-05-18 18:16             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 03/12] t1092: expand repository data shape Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-18  1:49       ` Elijah Newren
2021-05-18 14:59         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 04/12] t1092: add tests for status/add and sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 05/12] unpack-trees: preserve cache_bottom Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 06/12] unpack-trees: compare sparse directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 07/12] unpack-trees: stop recursing into sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-18  2:03       ` Elijah Newren
2021-05-18  2:06         ` Elijah Newren
2021-05-18 19:20           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 08/12] dir.c: accept a directory as part of cone-mode patterns Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 09/12] status: skip sparse-checkout percentage with sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 10/12] status: use sparse-index throughout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 11/12] wt-status: expand added sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-18  2:27       ` Elijah Newren
2021-05-18 18:26         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-18 19:04           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-19  8:38             ` Elijah Newren
2021-05-14 18:31     ` [PATCH v3 12/12] fsmonitor: integrate with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59     ` [PATCH v4 00/12] Sparse-index: integrate with status Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 01/12] sparse-index: skip indexes with unmerged entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 02/12] sparse-index: include EXTENDED flag when expanding Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 03/12] t1092: expand repository data shape Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 04/12] t1092: add tests for status/add and sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 05/12] unpack-trees: preserve cache_bottom Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 06/12] unpack-trees: compare sparse directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 07/12] unpack-trees: be careful around sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-28 11:36         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 08/12] dir.c: accept a directory as part of cone-mode patterns Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 09/12] status: skip sparse-checkout percentage with sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 10/12] status: use sparse-index throughout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 11/12] wt-status: expand added sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-05-21 11:59       ` [PATCH v4 12/12] fsmonitor: integrate with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:33       ` [PATCH v5 00/14] Sparse-index: integrate with status Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:33         ` [PATCH v5 01/14] sparse-index: skip indexes with unmerged entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 02/14] sparse-index: include EXTENDED flag when expanding Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-08 18:56           ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-09 17:39             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-09 18:11               ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 03/14] t1092: replace incorrect 'echo' with 'cat' Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-08 19:18           ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 04/14] t1092: expand repository data shape Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 05/14] t1092: add tests for status/add and sparse files Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 06/14] unpack-trees: preserve cache_bottom Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 07/14] unpack-trees: compare sparse directories correctly Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 08/14] unpack-trees: unpack sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-09  3:48           ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-09 20:21             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 09/14] dir.c: accept a directory as part of cone-mode patterns Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 10/14] diff-lib: handle index diffs with sparse dirs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 15:26           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-08  1:05             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-08 13:00               ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-09  5:47           ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-09  6:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-09  8:11               ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-09 20:33                 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-10 17:45                   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-10 21:31                     ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-11 12:57                       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-11 17:27                         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 11/14] status: skip sparse-checkout percentage with sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 12/14] status: use sparse-index throughout Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 13/14] wt-status: expand added sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-06-09  5:27           ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-09 20:49             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-07 12:34         ` [PATCH v5 14/14] fsmonitor: integrate with sparse index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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