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[89.229.7.83]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y135sm2916012lfa.92.2019.10.26.11.25.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Narebski To: Elijah Newren Cc: Pratyush Yadav , Git Mailing List , Bert Wesarg , Johannes Schindelin , Junio C Hamano , Birger Skogeng Pedersen , Philip Oakley , Johannes Sixt Subject: Re: RFC: Moving git-gui development to GitHub References: <20191023201310.thzpxyoeb3ta55dc@yadavpratyush.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 20:25:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Elijah Newren's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2019 12:46:20 -0700") Message-ID: <86k18rbbyz.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Elijah Newren writes: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:45 AM Pratyush Yadav wro= te: >> >> I recently had some discussions with Dscho about whether it is a better >> idea to use GitHub for development instead of email [0]. His argument >> was that GitHub makes it easier for newcomers to contribute, since more >> people are familiar with GitHub compared to mailing lists. Also, it is >> somewhat difficult to set up an email-based workflow. [...] > GitHub is great for ease of creating new repos, learning about other > developers, finding similar projects, creation of webhooks, etc. But > it's *awful* for code review. Gerrit is a lot better at code reviews > (though still has problems); so maybe dealing with both GitHub and > Gerrit would be reasonable. [...] > Email is a horrible medium for sending/receiving > changes, but at least it gets the overall code review model right > (commit-messages-are-first-order-objects-that-can-be-reviewed, > review-individual-commits, merge-per-topic, cover-letter included, > range-diff for high-level comparison of different iterations, > reversing-commit-order-display-based-on-author-timestamps-is-NOT-forgivab= le, > Change-IDs-are-ugly, magic-refs-are-disgusting, etc.), something no > GUI tool (yet) does to my knowledge. I agree with that. You need then to decide whether it is better to have it easier for beginners to contribute, or is it better to have it easier to review code. What are the pain points? Another source worth looking into is "Patches carved into stone tablets, why the Linux kernel developers rely on plain text email instead of using =E2=80=9Cmodern=E2=80=9D development tools." presentation by Greg KH = from 2016[1][2]. But remember that git-gui is not Linux kernel; what works for one might not work for the other. It is unfortunate that we have no tools described in "Patches carved into developer sigchains"[3] wishfull blog post by Konstantin Ryabitsev... [1]: https://kernel-recipes.org/en/2016/talks/patches-carved-into-stone-tab= lets/ [2]: https://www.slideshare.net/ennael/kernel-recipes-2016-patches-carved-i= nto-stone-tablets [3]: https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/patches-carved-into-developer-s= igchains Regards, -- Jakub Nar=C4=99bski