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From: Thomas Rast <trast@inf.ethz.ch>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Stefan Zager" <szager@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: regression in multi-threaded git-pack-index
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:45:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871ubb8y6z.fsf@pctrast.inf.ethz.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130319103306.GA9490@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:33:06 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:29:36AM +0100, Thomas Rast wrote:
>
>> > Ah, indeed. Putting:
>> >
>> >   fprintf(stderr, "%lu\n", base->obj->delta_depth);
>> >
>> > before the conditional reveals that base->obj->delta_depth is
>> > uninitialized, which is the real problem. I'm sure there is some
>> > perfectly logical explanation for why valgrind can't detect its use
>> > during the assignment, but I'm not sure what it is.
>> 
>> That's simply because you would get far too much noise.  It only reports
>> an uninitialized value when it actually gets used in a conditional or
>> for output (syscalls), which is when they matter.
>
> Would it? I would think any computation you start with an undefined
> value would be suspect (and you would want to know about it as soon as
> possible, before the tainted value gets output). I was assuming it was a
> performance issue or something.

Now consider

  // somewhere on the stack
  struct foo {
    char c;
    int i;
  } a, b;
  a.c = a.i = 0;

  memcpy(&b, &a, sizeof(struct foo));

The compiler could legitimately leave the padding between c and i
uninitialized, and with your proposed "early" reporting the memcpy would
complain.

-- 
Thomas Rast
trast@{inf,student}.ethz.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-19 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-15 22:42 regression in multi-threaded git-pack-index Stefan Zager
2013-03-16 11:41 ` Jeff King
2013-03-16 12:38   ` Duy Nguyen
2013-03-19  8:17   ` Thomas Rast
2013-03-19  9:30     ` Jeff King
2013-03-19  9:59       ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 10:08         ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 10:24           ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 10:29             ` Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 10:33               ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 10:45                 ` Thomas Rast [this message]
2013-03-19 10:47                   ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 10:58             ` [PATCH] index-pack: always zero-initialize object_entry list Jeff King
2013-03-19 15:33               ` Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 15:43                 ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 15:52                   ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 16:17                     ` [PATCH v2] " Jeff King
2013-03-19 16:27                       ` Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 17:13                         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-20 19:12                       ` Eric Sunshine
2013-03-20 19:13                         ` Jeff King
2013-03-20 19:14                           ` Eric Sunshine
2013-03-19 12:35     ` regression in multi-threaded git-pack-index Duy Nguyen
2013-03-19 13:01       ` [PATCH] index-pack: protect deepest_delta in multithread code Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2013-03-19 13:25         ` Jeff King
2013-03-19 13:50         ` Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 14:07           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-03-19 14:16             ` [PATCH v2] index-pack: guard nr_resolved_deltas reads by lock Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 15:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19 15:41 ` regression in multi-threaded git-pack-index Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 15:45   ` Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 16:11     ` Thomas Rast
2013-03-19 17:58       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-19 22:08         ` [PATCH] sha1_file: remove recursion in packed_object_info Thomas Rast
2013-03-20 16:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-25  9:27             ` thomas
2013-03-25 18:07               ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Recursion-free unpack_entry and packed_object_info Thomas Rast
2013-03-25 18:07                 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sha1_file: remove recursion in packed_object_info Thomas Rast
2013-03-25 18:07                 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Refactor parts of in_delta_base_cache/cache_or_unpack_entry Thomas Rast
2013-03-25 23:15                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-26 11:09                     ` thomas
2013-03-25 18:07                 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] sha1_file: remove recursion in unpack_entry Thomas Rast
2013-03-25 23:19                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-26  3:37                 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Recursion-free unpack_entry and packed_object_info Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-25 18:17               ` [PATCH] sha1_file: remove recursion in packed_object_info Junio C Hamano
2013-03-27 20:03               ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Recursion-free unpack_entry and packed_object_info Thomas Rast
2013-03-27 20:03                 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] sha1_file: remove recursion in packed_object_info Thomas Rast
2013-03-27 20:03                 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] Refactor parts of in_delta_base_cache/cache_or_unpack_entry Thomas Rast
2013-03-27 20:03                 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] sha1_file: remove recursion in unpack_entry Thomas Rast
2013-03-27 20:29                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-03-20  1:17       ` regression in multi-threaded git-pack-index Duy Nguyen

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