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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>, Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Ben Peart <benpeart@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:13:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874lddc9fs.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181017182337.GD28326@sigill.intra.peff.net>


On Wed, Oct 17 2018, Jeff King wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:19:59PM -0400, Eric Sunshine wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:40 PM Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Add a reset.quietDefault config setting that sets the default value of the
>> > --quiet flag when running the reset command.  This enables users to change
>> > the default behavior to take advantage of the performance advantages of
>> > avoiding the scan for unstaged changes after reset.  Defaults to false.
>>
>> As with the previous patch, my knee-jerk reaction is that this really
>> feels wrong being tied to --quiet. It's particularly unintuitive.
>>
>> What I _could_ see, and what would feel more natural is if you add a
>> new option (say, --optimize) which is more general, incorporating
>> whatever optimizations become available in the future, not just this
>> one special-case. A side-effect of --optimize is that it implies
>> --quiet, and that is something which can and should be documented.
>
> Heh, I just wrote something very similar elsewhere in the thread. I'm
> still not sure if it's a dumb idea, but at least we can be dumb
> together.

Same here. I'm in general if favor of having the ability to configure
porcelain command-line options, but in this case it seems like it would
be more logical to head for something like:

    core.uiMessaging=[default,exhaustive,lossyButFaster,quiet]

Where default would be our current "exhaustive", and this --quiet case
would be covered by lossyButFaster, but also things like the
"--no-ahead-behind" flag for git-status.

Just on this implementation: The usual idiom for flags as config is
command.flag=xyz, not command.flagDefault=xyz, so this should be
reset.quiet.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-23  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17 16:40 [PATCH v1 0/2] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-17 16:40 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-17 18:14   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-17 18:22     ` Jeff King
2018-10-18  3:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-18  6:36         ` Jeff King
2018-10-18 18:15           ` Ben Peart
2018-10-18 18:26             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-18 19:03               ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19  0:34             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-17 16:40 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-17 18:19   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-17 18:23     ` Jeff King
2018-10-23  9:13       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-10-23 18:11         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23 20:02           ` Jeff King
2018-10-23 20:03           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-24 15:48             ` Recommended configurations (was Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] reset: add new reset.quietDefault config setting) Derrick Stolee
2018-10-24 23:58               ` Jeff King
2018-10-25  4:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-19 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:36     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-19 16:46       ` Jeff King
2018-10-19 17:10         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-10-19 17:11           ` Jeff King
2018-10-19 17:23             ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19 19:08               ` Jeff King
2018-10-22  5:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-19 17:11         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-19 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart
2018-10-22 13:18 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-22 20:44     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-22 22:07       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23  8:53         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-23 15:46         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-23 19:55           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-22 14:45     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-23 18:47       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-24  2:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24  7:21           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24 14:54           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-25  1:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-24 14:49         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-22 19:13     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-22 20:06       ` Jeff King
2018-10-23 17:31         ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23 17:35           ` Jeff King
2018-10-22 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart
2018-10-23  0:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-23 17:12       ` Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] speed up git reset Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] reset: don't compute unstaged changes after reset when --quiet Ben Peart
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] reset: add new reset.quiet config setting Ben Peart
2018-10-24  0:39     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-25  4:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-25  9:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-25 13:26           ` Ben Peart
2018-10-25 17:04           ` Ramsay Jones
2018-10-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] reset: warn when refresh_index() takes more than 2 seconds Ben Peart

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