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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>, "Eric Wong" <e@80x24.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] Makefile/coccicheck: allow for setting xargs concurrency
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 03:29:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dlwotjc.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFuSSqbAjTmaEMCB@coredump.intra.peff.net>


On Wed, Mar 24 2021, Jeff King wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 01:11:49PM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>
>> Extend the SPATCH_BATCH_SIZE facility added in
>> 960154b9c17 (coccicheck: optionally batch spatch invocations,
>> 2019-05-06) and bcb4edf7af7 (coccicheck: make batch size of 0 mean
>> "unlimited", 2019-05-08) to allow for both setting
>> SPATCH_BATCH_SIZE=N, and also to have a more advanced SPATCH_XARGS
>> argument.
>> 
>> The reason to replace the "$$limit" is that now you actually see under
>> V=1 what argument your program will get invoked with.
>> 
>> The reason for the "9999" limit is that if you e.g. try to define an
>> "$(XARGS)" which is conditionally an empty string or not depending on
>> this setting then e.g.:
>> 
>>     echo $(FILES) | $(XARGS) $(XARGS_FLAGS) $(SPATCH)
>> 
>> Over multiple lines with "\" will error out. I think just setting it
>> to "xargs -n 9999" as a trivial workaround is the best solution here.
>
> I don't understand this 9999 comment. The original was sometimes setting
> $limit to the empty string, and then doing:
>
>  xargs $limit
>
> How is that any different than setting SPATCH_XARGS to just "xargs" for
> the unlimited case?

The "over multiple lines" is important. But it seems not
anymore. I.e. in an earlier version I had:

    $(XARGS) \
        $(XARGS_FLAGS) \
        $(SPATCH)

And it would brek if XARGS_FLAGS was empty. So I set it to -n 9999 as a
fallback.

>> +# For the 'coccicheck' target; SPATCH_XARGS can be used to manually
>> +# tweak the xargs invocation. By default we invoke "xargs -n 1", and
>> +# "xargs -n 9999" under SPATCH_BATCH_SIZE=0.
>> +#
>> +# Setting SPATCH_XARGS overrides SPATCH_BATCH_SIZE. To get concurrency
>> +# when targeting a single contrib/coccinelle/%.patch use e.g. "-P" if
>> +# your xargs(1) supports it:
>> +#
>> +#    make contrib/coccinelle/strbuf.cocci.patch SPATCH_XARGS="xargs -P 8 -n 8"
>> +#
>> +# Or a combination -jN and "xargs -P":
>> +#
>> +#    make -j4 coccicheck SPATCH_XARGS="xargs -P 2 -n 8"
>
> As I mentioned in the last round, using "-P" is racy. I'm not sure if
> it's something we should be recommending to people.

Yes, this would need to use N tempfiles we'd cat together at the end to
be POSIX-reliable.

In practice I've never seen this sort of thing be unreliable for a case
like this.

POSIX just guarantees that the output won't be interleaved up to
PIPE_BUF, which is typically 4k. We certainly get patches bigger than
that from spatch in some cases.

But from the OS's perspective emitting this output happens at a glacial
pace. So even if it crosses that boundary it's unlikely to be
interleaved.

Even:

    perl -wE 'print "a" for 1..1024*1024*100' >1
    perl -wE 'print "b" for 1..1024*1024*100' >2
    perl -wE 'print "\n" for 1..1024*1024*100' >3
    $ du -shc 1 2 3
    100M    1
    100M    2
    100M    3
    300M    total

Which at least on this computer I can't get to not print:

    $ echo 1 2 3 | xargs -P 3 -n 1 cat|wc -l
    104857600

Suggesting that even for output of that size the \n's aren't mixed
up. YMMV.

Anyway. I think I'll just redact this topic. Maybe I'll change my mind
on it, or pick it up some other month/year/whatever.

I appreciate everyone's feedback on it, but for something I thought
would be a rather trivial bugfix I've sunk way too much time into it.
At this point I can't even remember why I was trying to run coccicheck
in the first place.

There's e.g. still your outstanding feedback on what's really going on
with that underlying spatch race I was trying to fix with this
--include-headers-for-types workaround.

I think digging into that would be interesting for someone, but right
now that's not me. I really don't want to spend time on digging into
spatch's OCaml guts to figure that & any other outstanding stuff out.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-25  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-12 23:48 [RFC PATCH] *.h: remove extern from function declarations Denton Liu
2019-04-13  1:24 ` Jeff King
2019-04-13  5:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-15 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Denton Liu
2019-04-15 18:24   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using spatch Denton Liu
2019-04-15 19:19     ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-04-15 18:24   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using sed Denton Liu
2019-04-15 18:24   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] cocci: prevent extern function declarations Denton Liu
2019-04-17  7:58   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] remove extern from " Denton Liu
2019-04-17  7:58     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using spatch Denton Liu
2019-04-17  7:58     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using sed Denton Liu
2019-04-17  7:58     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] *.[ch]: manually align parameter lists Denton Liu
2019-04-17  7:58     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] cocci: prevent extern function declarations Denton Liu
2019-04-22  5:44     ` [PATCH] cache.h: fix mismerge of 'dl/no-extern-in-func-decl' Denton Liu
2019-04-22  6:30       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-22 11:19         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-22 21:49     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] remove extern from function declarations Jeff King
2019-04-25 12:07       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-04-25 18:05         ` Denton Liu
2019-04-30 23:21         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-01 10:01           ` Denton Liu
2019-05-01 18:56             ` Jeff King
2019-05-02  0:04             ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-05-03  9:32               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-03 14:42                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-05-03 14:58                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-05-03 17:45                   ` Jeff King
2019-05-03 18:44                     ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-05-05  5:28                     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-05 18:09                       ` Jacob Keller
2019-05-05 18:08                     ` Jacob Keller
2019-05-06  5:11                       ` [PATCH] coccicheck: optionally process every source file at once Jeff King
2019-05-06  9:34                         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-06 23:43                           ` [PATCH] coccicheck: optionally batch spatch invocations Jeff King
2019-05-07  1:41                             ` Jacob Keller
2019-05-07  2:04                               ` Jeff King
2019-05-07  2:42                             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-07  2:55                               ` Jeff King
2019-05-07  3:04                                 ` Jacob Keller
2019-05-07  4:52                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-08  7:07                                   ` Jeff King
2019-05-08 12:36                                     ` Denton Liu
2019-05-08 22:39                                       ` Jeff King
2019-05-07 10:20                             ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-07 11:19                             ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-03-02 20:51                             ` [PATCH] Makefile: fix bugs in coccicheck and speed it up Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-03  9:43                               ` Denton Liu
2021-03-03 11:45                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-04 23:18                               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-05 11:17                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-05 10:24                               ` Jeff King
2021-03-05 17:20                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-06 10:59                                   ` Jeff King
2021-03-05 17:07                               ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Makefile/coccicheck: fix bugs " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-05 19:10                                 ` René Scharfe.
     [not found]                                   ` <xmqqim659u57.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>
2021-03-06 11:26                                     ` René Scharfe.
2021-03-06 12:43                                       ` René Scharfe.
     [not found]                                       ` <xmqqft16914r.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>
2021-03-13 16:10                                         ` René Scharfe.
2021-03-06 17:27                                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-06 17:41                                     ` René Scharfe.
2021-03-06 17:52                                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-06 19:08                                         ` René Scharfe.
2021-03-05 17:07                               ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Makefile/coccicheck: add comment heading for all SPATCH flags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-05 17:07                               ` [PATCH v2 2/4] Makefile/coccicheck: speed up and fix bug with duplicate hunks Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-06 10:45                                 ` Jeff King
2021-03-06 19:29                                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-05 17:07                               ` [PATCH v2 3/4] Makefile/coccicheck: allow for setting xargs concurrency Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-06 10:51                                 ` Jeff King
2021-03-05 17:07                               ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Makefile/coccicheck: set SPATCH_BATCH_SIZE to 8 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-06 19:25                                 ` [PATCH v2 5/4] Makefile/coccicheck: use --include-headers-for-types Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-18 20:49                                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-03-19 10:32                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-22 12:11                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Makefile/coccicheck: fix bugs and speed it up Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-22 12:11                                     ` [PATCH v4 1/4] Makefile/coccicheck: add comment heading for all SPATCH flags Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-22 18:04                                       ` René Scharfe.
2021-03-22 12:11                                     ` [PATCH v4 2/4] Makefile/coccicheck: speed up and fix bug with duplicate hunks Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-22 18:05                                       ` René Scharfe.
2021-03-24 19:19                                         ` Jeff King
2021-03-22 19:09                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-22 12:11                                     ` [PATCH v4 3/4] Makefile/coccicheck: allow for setting xargs concurrency Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-24 19:26                                       ` Jeff King
2021-03-25  2:29                                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-03-26  4:11                                           ` Jeff King
2021-03-22 12:11                                     ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Makefile/coccicheck: set SPATCH_BATCH_SIZE to 8 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-22 18:05                                       ` René Scharfe.
2021-03-24 19:27                                         ` Jeff King
2021-03-27 17:43                                     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Makefile/coccicheck: fix bugs and speed it up Junio C Hamano
2021-03-27 19:46                                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-03  9:40               ` [PATCH v3 0/4] remove extern from function declarations Denton Liu
2019-04-23 23:40   ` [PATCH v4 " Denton Liu
2019-04-23 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 1/4] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using spatch Denton Liu
2019-04-23 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 2/4] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using sed Denton Liu
2019-04-24  4:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25 19:00         ` Denton Liu
2019-04-23 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 3/4] *.[ch]: manually align parameter lists Denton Liu
2019-04-23 23:40     ` [PATCH v4 4/4] cocci: prevent extern function declarations Denton Liu
2019-04-29  8:28     ` [PATCH v5 0/3] *** SUBJECT HERE *** Denton Liu
2019-04-29  8:28       ` [PATCH v5 1/3] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using spatch Denton Liu
2019-04-29  8:28       ` [PATCH v5 2/3] *.[ch]: remove extern from function declarations using sed Denton Liu
2019-04-29  8:28       ` [PATCH v5 3/3] *.[ch]: manually align parameter lists Denton Liu
2019-04-29  8:30       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] *** SUBJECT HERE *** Denton Liu
2019-05-06 11:03         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-06 15:34           ` Denton Liu

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