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From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
To: "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
Cc: AtariDreams via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Seija Kijin <doremylover123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use ^=1 to toggle between 0 and 1
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:46:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99b3a727-36fd-4fa5-a6be-60ae6fc5911e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231214220503.GA3320432@coredump.intra.peff.net>

On 14/12/2023 22:05, Jeff King wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 02:08:31PM +0100, René Scharfe wrote:
> 
>>> I don't even know that we'd need much of a weather-balloon patch. I
>>> think it would be valid to do:
>>>
>>>    #ifndef bool
>>>    #define bool int
>>>
>>> to handle pre-C99 compilers (if there even are any these days). Of
>>> course we probably need some conditional magic to try to "#include
>>> <stdbool.h>" for the actual C99. I guess we could assume C99 by default
>>> and then add NO_STDBOOL as an escape hatch if anybody complains.
>>
>> The semantics are slightly different in edge cases, so that fallback
>> would not be fully watertight.  E.g. consider:
>>
>>     bool b(bool cond) {return cond == true;}
>>     bool b2(void) {return b(2);}

Thanks for bring this up René, I had similar concerns when I saw the 
suggestion of using "int" as a fallback.

> Yeah. b2() is wrong for passing "2" to a bool.

I think it depends what you mean by "wrong" §6.3.1.2 of standard is 
quite clear that when any non-zero scalar value is converted to _Bool 
the result is "1"

> I assumed that the
> compiler would warn of that (at least for people on modern C99
> compilers, not the fallback code), but it doesn't seem to. It's been a
> long time since I've worked on a code base that made us of "bool", but I
> guess that idea is that silently coercing a non-zero int to a bool is
> reasonable in many cases (e.g., "bool found_foo = count_foos()").

I guess it is also consistent with the way "if" and "while" consider a 
non-zero scalar value to be "true".

> I guess one could argue that b() is also sub-optimal, as it should just
> say "return cond" or "return !cond" rather than explicitly comparing to
> true/false. But I won't be surprised if it happens from time to time.

Even if it unlikely that we would directly compare a boolean variable to 
"true" or "false" it is certainly conceivable that we'd compare two 
boolean variables directly. For the integer fallback to be safe we'd 
need to write

	if (!cond_a == !cond_b)

rather than

	if (cond_a == cond_b)

>> A coding rule to not compare bools could mitigate that.  Or a rule to
>> only use the values true and false in bool context and to only use
>> logical operators on them.
> 
> That seems more complex than we want if our goal is just supporting
> legacy systems that may or may not even exist. Given your example, I'd
> be more inclined to just do a weather-balloon adding <stdbool.h> to
> git-compat-util.h, and using "bool" in a single spot in the code. If
> nobody screams after a few releases, we can consider it OK. If they do,
> it's a trivial patch to convert back.

A weather-balloon seems like the safest route forward. We have been 
requiring C99 for two years now [1], hopefully there aren't any 
compilers out that claim to support C99 but don't provide "<stdbool.h>" 
(I did check online and the compiler on NonStop does support _Bool).

Best Wishes

Phillip

[1] 7bc341e21b (git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 support, 
2021-12-01)

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-15 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-12 17:17 [PATCH] Use ^=1 to toggle between 0 and 1 AtariDreams via GitGitGadget
2023-12-12 17:29 ` Dragan Simic
2023-12-12 20:09 ` Jeff King
2023-12-12 22:30   ` René Scharfe
2023-12-13  8:01     ` Jeff King
2023-12-13 15:17       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-14 13:08       ` René Scharfe
2023-12-14 22:05         ` Jeff King
2023-12-15 14:46           ` Phillip Wood [this message]
2023-12-15 17:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-16 10:46               ` René Scharfe
2023-12-18 16:18               ` Phillip Wood
2023-12-16 10:47             ` [PATCH] git-compat-util: convert skip_{prefix,suffix}{,_mem} to bool René Scharfe
2023-12-18 16:23               ` Phillip Wood
2023-12-18 20:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-19 13:36                   ` René Scharfe
2023-12-21  9:59               ` Jeff King
2023-12-21  9:56             ` [PATCH] Use ^=1 to toggle between 0 and 1 Jeff King
2023-12-21 15:06               ` phillip.wood123

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