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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Emily Shaffer <nasamuffin@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] treewide: remove unnecessary git-compat-util.h includes in headers
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 11:53:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BHizCj2e454w3vtHrDNip3Rm-gUMT0oJiAsbkAvr_QvVA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq1qmg899v.fsf@gitster.g>

On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 11:35 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> "Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
> >
> > Since git-compat-util.h needs to be included first in C files, having it
> > appear in header files is unnecessary.  More importantly, having it
> > included in header files seems to lead to folks leaving it out of C
> > files, which makes it harder to verify that the rule is being followed.
> > Remove it from header files, other than the ones that have been approved
> > as alternate first includes.
>
> Hmph, doesn't this cut both ways?
>
> I like the idea that the removal of compat-util from other
> header files may increase the likelihood that a C file that includes
> such header files without including compat-util fail to compile,
> because it would fail to find what is defined or declared in
> compat-util.
>
> But from "include what you use" point of view, shouldn't a header
> that defines or declares its own stuff using what is defined or
> declared in compat-util be including compat-util itself?
>
> Or do I misunderstand what "make hdr-check" is trying to achieve?
>
> Granted that the check does not fail with this patch in place, but I
> suspect that it is by accident (i.e. there happens to be nobody who
> depends on what is defined/declared in compat-util for their own
> definition or declaration).  Also I am not sure how to interpret
> the fact that "make hdr-check" succeeds with this patch.  Does it
> mean C files that include these header files while forgetting to
> include compat-util may not be caught by the compiler after all?
>
> So, I dunno.

I did something like that before, and Peff objected; see
https://lore.kernel.org/git/20180811173406.GA9119@sigill.intra.peff.net/
and https://lore.kernel.org/git/20180811174301.GA9287@sigill.intra.peff.net/.

I think for sanity we should do one of the following:

(a) make C and header files both depend upon everything they need
(b) consistently exclude git-compat-util.h from headers and require it
be the first include in C files

I think things get really messy if we let half the headers follow (a)
and the other half are forced to do (b).  I was pushed towards (b)
before, but now that I've worked on this series, I think there is even
more reason to go this direction: this work I did during this series
shows that if we allow a mixture of (a) and (b), then empirically we
end up with C files that don't include git-compat-util.h directly, and
those same C files likely include some headers that don't include
git-compat-util.h at all, and if the other headers are included before
the indirect inclusion of git-compat-util.h then there are risks that
things will break in very subtle ways (as pointed out by Peff in the
above-linked emails).  So, I'm inclined to go towards (b).

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-23 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-23  8:05 [PATCH 00/16] Header cleanups Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 01/16] treewide: ensure one of the appropriate headers is sourced first Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 02/16] treewide: remove unnecessary git-compat-util.h includes in headers Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 13:52   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-23 18:13     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-23 19:35   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-23 19:53     ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2023-02-23 22:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-23 23:41         ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 03/16] treewide: remove unnecessary cache.h includes Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 04/16] treewide: remove unnecessary cache.h includes in source files Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 13:57   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 05/16] alloc.h: move ALLOC_GROW() functions from cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 14:06   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-23 18:22     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-23 19:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-23 19:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 06/16] hash.h: move some oid-related declarations " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 14:08   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-23 18:25     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-24 23:55   ` Jonathan Tan
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 07/16] hex.h: move some hex-related " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 14:11   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-23 19:31     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 08/16] pretty.h: move has_non_ascii() declaration from commit.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 09/16] ident.h: move ident-related declarations out of cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 10/16] object.h: stop depending on cache.h; make cache.h depend on object.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 14:17   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-23 19:55     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 11/16] dir.h: refactor to no longer need to include cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 12/16] object-store.h: move struct object_info from cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 14:20   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-23 19:55     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 13/16] replace-object.h: move read_replace_refs declaration from cache.h to here Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 14/16] treewide: replace cache.h with more direct headers, where possible Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 15/16] Remove unnecessary includes of builtin.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23  8:05 ` [PATCH 16/16] diff.h: remove unnecessary include of object.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-23 14:27 ` [PATCH 00/16] Header cleanups Derrick Stolee
2023-02-24  0:09 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 01/17] treewide: ensure one of the appropriate headers is sourced first Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 02/17] treewide: remove unnecessary git-compat-util.h includes in headers Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 03/17] treewide: remove unnecessary cache.h includes Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 04/17] treewide: remove unnecessary cache.h includes in source files Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 05/17] alloc.h: move ALLOC_GROW() functions from cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 06/17] hash.h: move some oid-related declarations " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 07/17] hex.h: move some hex-related " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 08/17] cache.h: remove dependence on hex.h; make other files include it explicitly Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 09/17] pretty.h: move has_non_ascii() declaration from commit.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 10/17] ident.h: move ident-related declarations out of cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 11/17] object.h: stop depending on cache.h; make cache.h depend on object.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 12/17] dir.h: refactor to no longer need to include cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 13/17] object-store.h: move struct object_info from cache.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 14/17] replace-object.h: move read_replace_refs declaration from cache.h to here Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 15/17] treewide: replace cache.h with more direct headers, where possible Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 16/17] Remove unnecessary includes of builtin.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 17/17] diff.h: remove unnecessary include of object.h Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-02-24 14:03   ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Header cleanups Johannes Schindelin
2023-02-25  0:10   ` Jonathan Tan
2023-02-25  0:57     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-27 13:51   ` Derrick Stolee

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