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From: Robert Coup <robert@coup.net.nz>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Robert Coup via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] partial-clone: add ability to refetch with expanded filter
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 15:02:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACf-nVdmWyDnhJC=ikx85UST=u2ENAc4DhJJCp5c030Vb9=4+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqk0eecpl9.fsf@gitster.g>

Hi Junio

Thanks for your input. Hopefully some of the other partial-clone
interested folks will chime in too.

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 at 20:13, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> It sounds like a useful thing to have such a "refetch things"
> option.

Any improved suggestions on the argument name? I thought of
--refetch but `fetch --refetch` seemed more confusing to explain.

> Makes me wonder how well these two features work together (or if
> they are mutually exclusive, that is fine as well as a starting
> point).

I don't see any particular reason they can't work together - as you say,
the filtering is orthogonal to shallow on a conceptual level. I haven't
added a test for that scenario yet but will do for a v1.

> If you update the filter specification to make it narrower (e.g. you
> start from blob:limit=1m down to blob:limit=512k), would we transfer
> nothing (which would be ideal), or would we end up refetching
> everything that are smaller than 512k?

As you spot, the latter. I can't see a straightforward way of telling the
server "I have these trees/blobs already" without generating (one way
or the other) a list of millions of oids, then transferring & negotiating
with it.

> ... it is not smart enough to stell them to exclude what we _ought_
> to have by telling them what the _old_ filter spec was.  That's OK
> for a starting point, I guess.

The client doesn't really know what the local repository *has* —
potentially several filters could have been applied and used for fetches
at different points in the commit history, as well as objects dynamically
fetched in. Even a filter set in the config only applies to subsequent
fetches, and only if --filter isn't used to override it.

> Hopefully, at the end of this
> operation, we should garbage collect the duplicated objects by
> default (with an option to turn it off)?

I haven't explicitly looked into invoking gc yet, but yes, it'd be a bit of
a waste if it wasn't kicked off by default. Maybe reusing gc.auto

> In other words, a repository that used to be a partial clone can
> become a full clone by using the option _and_ not giving any filter.

For that specific case I think you can already do it by removing the
promisor flag in the remote config, potentially adding it back if you
wanted to keep it partial again from that point forward.

> I think that is an intuitive enough behaviour and a natural
> consequence to the extreme of what the feature is.  Compared to
> making a full "git clone", fetching from the old local (and narrow)
> repository into it and then discarding the old one, it would not
> have any performance or storage advantage, but it probably is more
> convenient.

It's certainly cleaner than abusing --deepen, or temporarily moving pack
files out of the way, or starting over with a fresh clone & copying config.

Thanks,

Rob :)

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-01 15:49 [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] partial-clone: add ability to refetch with expanded filter Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH 1/6] fetch-negotiator: add specific noop initializor Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH 2/6] fetch-pack: add partial clone refiltering Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-04 18:02   ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-11 14:56     ` Robert Coup
2022-02-17  0:05       ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH 3/6] builtin/fetch-pack: add --refilter option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH 4/6] fetch: " Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH 5/6] t5615-partial-clone: add test for --refilter Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 15:49 ` [PATCH 6/6] doc/partial-clone: mention --refilter option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 20:13 ` [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] partial-clone: add ability to refetch with expanded filter Junio C Hamano
2022-02-02 15:02   ` Robert Coup [this message]
2022-02-16 13:24     ` Robert Coup
2022-02-02 18:59 ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-02 21:58   ` Robert Coup
2022-02-02 21:59     ` Robert Coup
2022-02-07 19:37 ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-02-24 16:13 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] fetch: add repair: full refetch without negotiation (was: "refiltering") Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] fetch-negotiator: add specific noop initializor Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-25  6:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-28 12:22       ` Robert Coup
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] fetch-pack: add repairing Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-25  6:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-28 12:14       ` Robert Coup
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] builtin/fetch-pack: add --repair option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] fetch: " Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] t5615-partial-clone: add test for fetch --repair Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] maintenance: add ability to pass config options Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-25  6:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-28 12:02       ` Robert Coup
2022-02-28 17:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-25 10:29     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-28 11:51       ` Robert Coup
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] fetch: after repair, encourage auto gc repacking Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-28 16:40     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-24 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] doc/partial-clone: mention --repair fetch option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-02-28 16:43   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] fetch: add repair: full refetch without negotiation (was: "refiltering") Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-28 17:27     ` Robert Coup
2022-02-28 18:54       ` [PATCH v2 0/8] fetch: add repair: full refetch without negotiation Junio C Hamano
2022-02-28 22:20       ` [PATCH v2 0/8] fetch: add repair: full refetch without negotiation (was: "refiltering") Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-04 15:04   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-04 15:04     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] fetch-negotiator: add specific noop initializer Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-04 15:04     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] fetch-pack: add refetch Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-04 15:04     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] builtin/fetch-pack: add --refetch option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-04 15:04     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] fetch: " Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-04 21:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-07 11:31         ` Robert Coup
2022-03-07 17:27           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09 10:00             ` Robert Coup
2022-03-04 15:04     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] t5615-partial-clone: add test for fetch --refetch Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-04 15:04     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] fetch: after refetch, encourage auto gc repacking Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-04 15:04     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] doc/partial-clone: mention --refetch fetch option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-09  0:27     ` [PATCH v3 0/7] fetch: add repair: full refetch without negotiation (was: "refiltering") Calvin Wan
2022-03-09  9:57       ` Robert Coup
2022-03-09 21:32         ` [PATCH v3 0/7] fetch: add repair: full refetch without negotiation Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10  1:07           ` Calvin Wan
2022-03-10 14:29           ` Robert Coup
2022-03-21 17:58             ` Calvin Wan
2022-03-21 21:34               ` Robert Coup
2022-03-28 14:02     ` [PATCH v4 0/7] fetch: add repair: full refetch without negotiation (was: "refiltering") Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-28 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 1/7] fetch-negotiator: add specific noop initializer Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-28 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 2/7] fetch-pack: add refetch Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-31 15:09         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01 10:26           ` Robert Coup
2022-03-28 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 3/7] builtin/fetch-pack: add --refetch option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-28 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 4/7] fetch: " Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-31 15:18         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01 10:31           ` Robert Coup
2022-03-28 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 5/7] t5615-partial-clone: add test for fetch --refetch Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-31 15:20         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01 10:36           ` Robert Coup
2022-03-28 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 6/7] fetch: after refetch, encourage auto gc repacking Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-31 15:22         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01 10:51           ` Robert Coup
2022-03-28 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 7/7] docs: mention --refetch fetch option Robert Coup via GitGitGadget
2022-03-28 17:38         ` Junio C Hamano

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