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From: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: gc and repack ignore .git/*HEAD when checking reachability
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:01:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACsJy8AFYWsi1_f-Hw1odN3gmbfqayXuoBHo+K3Fh4XBwMA0Vw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607101602320.6426@virtualbox>

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>> No, the point is, refs subsystem needs to know which refs is per-repo,
>> which is per-worktree. So far the rules are  "everything under refs,
>> except a few known exceptions, is per-repo" and "everything directly
>> under $GIT_DIR is per-worktree", which work fine. But if you allow to
>> move per-worktree to "refs" freely, then the "known exceptions" will
>> have to be updated every time a new per-worktree ref appears. It'll be
>> easier to modify the first rule as "everything under refs, except some
>> legacy exceptions and refs/worktree, is per-repo".
>
> Given the substantial pain and suffering I have due to per-worktree
> reflogs (and those are *just* HEAD's reflogs!),

I apologize for that. I clearly did not see all the consequences of my
simple-minded approach. Watch out for the shared config issue too if
you start to rely on multiple worktrees. It may take even longer time
to address than this one.

> it appears to me that per-worktree refs would be a particularly poor feature.
>
> I agree that HEAD needs to be per-worktree, but already the fact that the
> HEADs of the worktrees, along with their reflogs, are *not* visible to
> all other worktrees causes substantial trouble.
>
> In my mind, a much more natural design would have been to map
> transparently each worktree's HEAD to refs/worktree/<name>/HEAD *and keep
> those refs and reflogs visible across all worktrees*.

We will be able to see refs from all worktrees if we choose to. There
is no question about that. It's needed for full-repo operations, gc
included. Whether we expose all worktree namespaces via refs/worktree
(as a logical view, not storage one), remains to be seen. Michael's
new ref API may be flexible enough that we could do without. I'm not
sure yet.

> With that design, I would not have irretrievably lost reflogs to auto-gc
> nor dozens of hours trying to figure out how to have *any* auto-gc succeed
> again (because I need to reduce the horrible slowness incurred by too many
> loose objects). My interactive rebases would also not have started to
> print the auto-gc error after every friggin' pick.
-- 
Duy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-10 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-08  2:59 gc and repack ignore .git/*HEAD when checking reachability Josh Triplett
2016-07-08  4:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-08  6:44   ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-08 17:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-08 19:25       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-08 20:30         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-08 23:50           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-09  5:23             ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-08 20:29       ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-09  7:35       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-09 14:09         ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-09 16:45           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-10 10:59             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-10 11:04               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-10 14:16                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-10 15:01                   ` Duy Nguyen [this message]
2016-07-11  6:07                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-11 18:52                   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 10:47                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 15:26                       ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 15:46                         ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-12 15:51                           ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 16:13                             ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-13  8:20                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-13 14:54                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-13 18:59                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-15 15:46                                     ` Duy Nguyen

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