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From: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/19] hack: watchman/untracked cache mashup
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:06:14 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACsJy8Cx7LnPC1+17qov_pJK9OMpYtdOzS_uTBh5Fnr=A8z_OQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1458176165.9385.9.camel@twopensource.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:56 AM, David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com> wrote:
>> So if we detect an updated file that's not in the index, we are
>> prepared to invalidate that path, correct? We may invalidate more
>> than
>> necessary if that's true. Imagine a.o is already ignored. If it's
>> rebuilt, we should not need to update untracked cache.
>
> Yes, that's true.  But it would be true with the mtime system too. This
> is no worse, even if it's no better.  In-tree builds are a hard case to
> support, and I'm totally OK with a system that encourages out-of-tree
> builds.
>
> We could check if it's ignored, but then if someone changes their
> gitignore, we could be wrong.
>
> Or we could suggest that people make their watchmanignore match their
> gitignore.

So your purpose is to reduce stat() on those "quiet" directories?
Putting it that way, yes it's reasonable to do this way. I want to "do
better" but we can do in steps and the first step "no worse, no
better" is already good.

>> What I had in mind (and argued with watchman devs a bit [1]) was
>> maintain the file list of each clock and compare the file list of
>> different clocks to figure out what files are added or deleted. Then
>> we can generate invalidation list more accurately. We need to keep at
>> least one file list corresponds to  the clock saved in the index.
>> When
>> we get the refresh request, we get a new file list (with new clock),
>> do a diff then save the invalidation list as an extension. Once we
>> notice that new clock is written back in index, we can discard older
>> file lists. In theory we should not need to keep too many file lists,
>> so even if one list is big, it should not be a big problem.
>>
>> I have a note with me about race conditions with this approach, but I
>> haven't remembered exactly why or how yet.. My recent thoughts about
>> it though, are race conditions when you do "git status" is probably
>> tolerable. After all if you're doing some I/O when you do git-status,
>> you're guaranteed to miss some updates.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/facebook/watchman/issues/65
>
> I think it would be possible to just check the UNTR extension and only
> add a dir to it if that dir doesn't already contain (untracked) the
> file that's being modified.  Or is that also racy?

Sorry can't comment on this racy thing yet. Still haven't sat down,
redrawn the timeline and retraced what I thought months ago :)
-- 
Duy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-17 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09 18:36 [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 01/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_PACK_STATS for pack usage statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 22:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:05     ` David Turner
2016-03-10 10:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 02/19] read-cache.c: fix constness of verify_hdr() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 03/19] read-cache: allow to keep mmap'd memory after reading David Turner
2016-03-09 23:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:09     ` David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 04/19] index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff David Turner
2016-03-09 23:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-09 23:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:01       ` David Turner
2016-03-10 11:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10 20:22         ` David Turner
2016-03-11  1:11           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10  0:18     ` David Turner
2016-03-15 11:56     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 15:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-15 11:52   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 05/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_INDEX_STATS for index statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 06/19] index-helper: add --strict David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 07/19] daemonize(): set a flag before exiting the main process David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 08/19] index-helper: add --detach David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 09/19] index-helper: add Windows support David Turner
2016-03-16 11:42   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 12:18     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 12:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 10/19] read-cache: add watchman 'WAMA' extension David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 11/19] Add watchman support to reduce index refresh cost David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 12/19] read-cache: allow index-helper to prepare shm before git reads it David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 13/19] index-helper: use watchman to avoid refreshing index with lstat() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 14/19] update-index: enable/disable watchman support David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 15/19] unpack-trees: preserve index extensions David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 16/19] index-helper: rewrite pidfile after daemonizing David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 17/19] index-helper: process management David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 18/19] index-helper: autorun David Turner
2016-03-15 12:12   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 14:26     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-16 11:37       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-16 18:11       ` David Turner
2016-03-16 18:27         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 13:02           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 14:43             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 18:31               ` David Turner
2016-03-18  0:50               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:14                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:44                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 17:22                     ` David Turner
2016-03-18 23:09                       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:17                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:34                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 15:57                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 19/19] hack: watchman/untracked cache mashup David Turner
2016-03-15 12:31   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17  0:56     ` David Turner
2016-03-17 13:06       ` Duy Nguyen [this message]
2016-03-17 18:08         ` David Turner
2016-03-29 17:09 ` [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman Torsten Bögershausen
2016-03-29 21:51   ` David Turner

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