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From: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/19] index-helper: autorun
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:37:01 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACsJy8D7kg0Y2Yj=9N2uS-H6YNinD_GSkUbQpAmV0BcC77TuWw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1603151517590.4690@virtualbox>

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Duy,
>
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016, Duy Nguyen wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:36 AM, David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com> wrote:
>> > Introduce a new config option, indexhelper.autorun, to automatically
>> > run git index-helper before starting up a builtin git command.  This
>> > enables users to keep index-helper running without manual
>> > intervention.
>>
>> This could be a problem on Windows because "index-helper --detach"
>> does not work there. I have no idea how "daemons" are managed on
>> Windows and not sure if our design is still good when such a "daemon"
>> is added on Windows. So I'm pulling Johannes in for his opinions.
>>
>> Background for Johannes. We're adding "git index-helper" daemon (one
>> per repo) to cache the index in memory to speed up index load time
>> (and in future probably name-hash too, I think it's also more often
>> used on Windows because of case-insensitive fs). It also enables
>> watchman (on Windows) for faster refresh. This patch allows to start
>> the daemon automatically if it's not running. But I don't know it will
>> work ok on Windows.
>>
>> Assuming that "index-helper" service has to be installed and started
>> from system, there can only be one service running right? This clashes
>> with the per-repo daemon design... I think it can stilf work, if the
>> main service just spawns new process, one for each repo. But again I'm
>> not sure.
>
> If we want to run the process as a Windows service, you are correct, there
> really can only be one. Worse: it runs with admin privileges.
>
> But why not just keep it running as a detached process?

Because I'm a Windows ignorant who assumed that it's the only way.

> We can run those
> on Windows, and if we're opening a named pipe whose name reveals the
> one-to-one mapping with the index in question, I think we are fine (read:
> we can detect whether the process is running already).
>
> We can even tell those processes to have a timeout, or to react to other
> system events.

So what's you're saying is, we can make this --detach option works,
like how it's daemonized in *nix, right? Then we should have no
problem with this autorun patch. Thanks for checking.

> Please note that I am *very* interested in this feature (speeding up index
> operations).

Yeah I thought so ;-) I'm counting on gfw devs to complete the Windows
part, if this series gets in.
-- 
Duy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-16 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09 18:36 [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 01/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_PACK_STATS for pack usage statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 22:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:05     ` David Turner
2016-03-10 10:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 02/19] read-cache.c: fix constness of verify_hdr() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 03/19] read-cache: allow to keep mmap'd memory after reading David Turner
2016-03-09 23:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:09     ` David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 04/19] index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff David Turner
2016-03-09 23:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-09 23:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:01       ` David Turner
2016-03-10 11:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10 20:22         ` David Turner
2016-03-11  1:11           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10  0:18     ` David Turner
2016-03-15 11:56     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 15:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-15 11:52   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 05/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_INDEX_STATS for index statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 06/19] index-helper: add --strict David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 07/19] daemonize(): set a flag before exiting the main process David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 08/19] index-helper: add --detach David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 09/19] index-helper: add Windows support David Turner
2016-03-16 11:42   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 12:18     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 12:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 10/19] read-cache: add watchman 'WAMA' extension David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 11/19] Add watchman support to reduce index refresh cost David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 12/19] read-cache: allow index-helper to prepare shm before git reads it David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 13/19] index-helper: use watchman to avoid refreshing index with lstat() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 14/19] update-index: enable/disable watchman support David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 15/19] unpack-trees: preserve index extensions David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 16/19] index-helper: rewrite pidfile after daemonizing David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 17/19] index-helper: process management David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 18/19] index-helper: autorun David Turner
2016-03-15 12:12   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 14:26     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-16 11:37       ` Duy Nguyen [this message]
2016-03-16 18:11       ` David Turner
2016-03-16 18:27         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 13:02           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 14:43             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 18:31               ` David Turner
2016-03-18  0:50               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:14                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:44                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 17:22                     ` David Turner
2016-03-18 23:09                       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:17                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:34                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 15:57                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 19/19] hack: watchman/untracked cache mashup David Turner
2016-03-15 12:31   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17  0:56     ` David Turner
2016-03-17 13:06       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 18:08         ` David Turner
2016-03-29 17:09 ` [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman Torsten Bögershausen
2016-03-29 21:51   ` David Turner

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