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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Alex Henrie" <alexhenrie24@gmail.com>,
	"Vít Ondruch" <vondruch@redhat.com>,
	"Git mailing list" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Pick the right default and stop warn on `git pull`
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:19:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <X7y0GbBQa0a5Alh0@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s08mEyYqbjOeTeS46CngrbQMqP2=cMr1dtRLLk_BLAq3w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 09:41:05PM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> What we really need is something like:
> 
> 1. git pull # fail by default unless it's a fast-forward
> 2. git pull --merge # force a merge (unless it's a fast-forward,
> depending on pull.ff)
> 3. git pull --rebase # force a rebase (unless it's a fast-forward,
> depending on pull.ff)
> 
> Therefore, what we really want is "git pull --rebase" *ignore*
> "pull.ff=only" (a possible default) or ignore "pull.rebase=ff-only"
> (also another possible default).

Yep. After reading the first half of your mail, I started to respond
with the exact same thing. The key thing is letting the command-line
options override all of the related config. But I guess after reading to
the end that you don't actually like this. ;)

I do agree it would be more clear in the long run with a single option
(config and command-line) that makes it clear the values are mutually
exclusive. I'm just not sure if it's painful to get there without
breaking compatibility or introducing confusion in the meantime.

> It would be possible to do something like:
> 
>   if (!opt_rebase && (!opt_ff || !strcmp(opt_ff, "--ff-only")))
>     turn_default_behavior = 1;
> 
> But then how would we distinguish between "git pull", and "git pull
> --no-rebase" (aka. "git pull --merge" / "pull.rebase=false")?

I'm not sure what you mean. We can tell the difference between those
based on what we saw on the command-line option. I.e., your
"!opt_rebase" is really a tri-state, which allows something like:

  if (opt_rebase == REBASE_UNSET) {
          if (opt_ff == FF_UNSET)
	          opt_ff = ff_default; /* from config or baked-in */
	  }
	  opt_rebase = rebase_default;
  }

but I didn't look at the logic in git-pull.

That said...

> This is just too much unnecessary complication There's no need to
> entertain a dozen possible heuristics to avoid "pull.mode", none of
> which avoid breaking existing behavior.
> 
> Let's just accept we need push.mode, and then we can have everything:
> default, ff-only, merge, rebase.

I think it could be possible for the documentation to make clear the
interactions, especially if the feature is designed with eventual
deprecation of other options (e.g., if it says "pull.mode=ff-only" means
that pull.ff won't be examined, and there's no need to ever use it
anymore).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-24  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-23 15:13 Pick the right default and stop warn on `git pull` Vít Ondruch
2020-11-23 17:59 ` Alex Henrie
2020-11-23 19:13   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-23 19:40     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 20:20       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-23 20:34         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 21:48           ` Jeff King
2020-11-23 22:03             ` Alex Henrie
2020-11-24  0:37               ` Jeff King
2020-11-23 22:39             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23 22:55             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-24  0:39               ` Jeff King
2020-11-24  0:57                 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-24  1:23                   ` Jeff King
2020-11-24  2:18                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-24  2:32                       ` Jeff King
2020-11-24  3:41                         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-24  7:19                           ` Jeff King [this message]
2020-11-24  7:48                             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-24  8:07                               ` Jeff King
2020-11-24 10:35                           ` Vít Ondruch
2020-11-24 20:21                           ` Alex Henrie
2020-11-24 22:11                             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-24 23:23                               ` Alex Henrie
2020-11-25  0:39                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-26  1:02                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 19:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23 19:37   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 19:43 ` Felipe Contreras

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