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From: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Mike Hommey" <mh@glandium.org>,
	"Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón" <carenas@gmail.com>,
	"Glen Choo" <chooglen@google.com>,
	"Eric DeCosta" <edecosta@mathworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] Makefile: really use and document sha1collisiondetection by default
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 21:15:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1G6ZEQbTBS1zqdL@tapette.crustytoothpaste.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqo7u7srp4.fsf@gitster.g>

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On 2022-10-19 at 16:28:55, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com> writes:
> 
> >> diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
> >> +ifdef DC_SHA1
> >> +$(error the DC_SHA1 flag is no longer used, and has become the default. Adjust your build scripts accordingly)
> >> +endif
> >
> > bikeshedding: Do we really need to penalize (abuse) people merely for
> > asking us to do what we're already doing anyhow?
> 
> A valid question.
> 
> I can understand and very much appreciate [1/4] as a very focused
> fix to the problem.  Very small part of this step, namely, make the
> DC_SHA1 the default everywhere, is also very much welcome.
> 
> Everything else I see in these patches are extra "while we are at
> it" that should not exist.  These "while at it" changes tend to
> somehow implement more subjective choices that will cause more
> discussion and take more review resources.  Not all "white at it"
> may be more subjective, but at least in this series, they appear
> to be.

I will definitely say that we should be using SHA-1-DC by default
everywhere and I'm fine with that change.  I don't think we should fail
if someone sets the former knob, since I don't recall us doing that
elsewhere.  It also seems bad to bother folks if we're already doing
what they asked for (and what we want them to do anyway).

I don't have a strong attachment to the remainder of the series and
agree that maybe a different series would be a better location for those
patches.
-- 
brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them)
Toronto, Ontario, CA

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-20 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-22  9:53 [PATCH 0/5] core: update our SHA-1 docs, use sha1collisiondetection on OSX too Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-22  9:53 ` [PATCH 1/5] Makefile: create and use sections for "define" flag listing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-22  9:53 ` [PATCH 2/5] Makefile: really use and document sha1collisiondetection by default Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-22  9:53 ` [PATCH 3/5] Makefile: rephrase the discussion of *_SHA1 knobs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-22  9:53 ` [PATCH 4/5] Makefile + hash.h: remove PPC_SHA1 implementation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-22  9:53 ` [PATCH 5/5] Makefile: use $(OBJECTS) instead of $(C_OBJ) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-22 18:56 ` [PATCH 0/5] core: update our SHA-1 docs, use sha1collisiondetection on OSX too Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19 20:14   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-26 19:02     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19  1:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19  1:03   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] fsmonitor OSX: compile with DC_SHA1=YesPlease Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19  1:03   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] Makefile: create and use sections for "define" flag listing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19  1:03   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] Makefile: really use and document sha1collisiondetection by default Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19  2:59     ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-19 16:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-19 18:54         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19 19:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-19 22:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-19 22:27             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 21:15         ` brian m. carlson [this message]
2022-10-19  1:03   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Makefile: rephrase the discussion of *_SHA1 knobs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Makefile & docs: document SHA-{1,256} behavior, fix bug Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] Makefile: always (re)set DC_SHA1 on fallback Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] INSTALL: remove discussion of SHA-1 backends Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] Makefile: correct DC_SHA1 documentation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] Makefile: create and use sections for "define" flag listing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] Makefile: rephrase the discussion of *_SHA1 knobs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] Makefile: document default SHA-256 backend Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] Makefile: document SHA-1 and SHA-256 default and selection order Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 22:58       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] Makefile: document default SHA-1 backend on OSX Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-20 23:01       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-20 22:43     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] Makefile: discuss SHAttered in *_SHA{1,256} discussion Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56     ` [PATCH v4 0/9] Makefile & docs: document SHA-{1,256} behavior, fix bug Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 1/9] Makefile: always (re)set DC_SHA1 on fallback Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 2/9] INSTALL: remove discussion of SHA-1 backends Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 3/9] Makefile: correct DC_SHA1 documentation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 4/9] Makefile: create and use sections for "define" flag listing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 5/9] Makefile: rephrase the discussion of *_SHA1 knobs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 6/9] Makefile: document default SHA-256 backend Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 7/9] Makefile: document SHA-1 and SHA-256 default and selection order Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 22:30         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 8/9] Makefile: document default SHA-1 backend on OSX Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-26 14:56       ` [PATCH v4 9/9] Makefile: discuss SHAttered in *_SHA{1,256} discussion Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23       ` [PATCH v5 00/10] Makefile, docs & code: document & fix SHA-{1,256} selection behavior Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 01/10] Makefile: always (re)set DC_SHA1 on fallback Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 02/10] INSTALL: remove discussion of SHA-1 backends Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 03/10] Makefile: correct DC_SHA1 documentation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 04/10] Makefile: create and use sections for "define" flag listing Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 05/10] Makefile: rephrase the discussion of *_SHA1 knobs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 06/10] Makefile: document default SHA-256 backend Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 07/10] Makefile: document SHA-1 and SHA-256 default and selection order Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 08/10] Makefile & test-tool: replace "DC_SHA1" variable with a "define" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 09/10] Makefile: document default SHA-1 backend on OSX Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 21:23         ` [PATCH v5 10/10] Makefile: discuss SHAttered in *_SHA{1,256} discussion Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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