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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Glen Choo via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
	Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] setup.c: make bare repo discovery optional
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 18:25:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YoLPQVAnOOX0AZ2v@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e5139922-9b74-ebfa-756c-629918e0456b@github.com>

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 02:46:55PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 7:37 PM, Glen Choo via GitGitGadget wrote:
> > From: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
> >
> > Add a config variable, `discovery.bare`, that tells Git whether or not
> > it should work with the bare repository it has discovered i.e. Git will
> > die() if it discovers a bare repository, but it is not allowed by
> > `discovery.bare`. This only affects repository discovery, thus it has no
> > effect if discovery was not done (e.g. `--git-dir` was passed).
>
> > This config is an enum of:
> >
> > - ["always"|(unset)]: always recognize bare repositories (like Git does
> >   today)
> > - "never": never recognize bare repositories
> >
> > More values are expected to be added later, and the default is expected
> > to change (i.e. to something other than "always").
>
> I think it is fine to include the "never" option for users to opt-in to
> this super-protected state, but I want to make it very clear that we
> should never move to it as a new default. This phrasing of 'something
> other than "always"' is key, but it might be good to point out that
> "never" is very unlikely to be that default.

I am confused, then.

What does a user who has some legitimate (non-embedded) bare
repositories do if they are skeptical of other bare repositories? I
suspect the best answer we would be able to provide with these patches
is "use `--git-dir`".

What happens to a user who has a combination of legitimate bare
repositories, embedded bare repositories that they trust, and other
embedded bare repositories that they don't?

As far as I can tell, our recommendation with these tools would be to:

  - run `git config --global discovery.bare never`, and
  - include `--git-dir=$(pwd)` in any git invocations in bare
    repositories that they do trust

This gets at my concerns from [1] and [2] (mostly [2], in this case)
that we're trying to close the embedded bare repos problem with an
overly broad solution, at the expense of usability.

I can't shake the feeling that something like I described towards the
bottom of [2] would give you all of the security guarantees you're after
without compromising on usability for non-embedded bare repositories.

I'm happy to explore this direction more myself if you don't want to. I
would just much rather see us adopt an approach that doesn't break more
use-cases than it has to if such a thing can be avoided.

I cannot endorse these patches as-is.

Thanks,
Taylor

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/Ylobp7sntKeWTLDX@nand.local/
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/YnmKwLoQCorBnMe2@nand.local/

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-16 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-06 18:30 [PATCH] [RFC] setup.c: make bare repo discovery optional Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-06 20:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-09 21:42 ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-09 22:54   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-09 23:57     ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-10  0:23       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-10 22:00   ` Glen Choo
2022-05-13 23:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-13 23:37   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:12     ` Glen Choo
2022-05-16 18:46     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 22:25       ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2022-05-17 20:24       ` Glen Choo
2022-05-17 21:51         ` Glen Choo
2022-05-13 23:37   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] setup.c: learn discovery.bareRepository=cwd Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:49     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 16:40   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] setup.c: make bare repo discovery optional Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 18:36     ` Glen Choo
2022-05-16 19:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 20:27         ` Glen Choo
2022-05-16 22:16           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 16:43   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 19:07   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 22:43     ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-16 23:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-17 18:56     ` Glen Choo
2022-05-27 21:09   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-27 21:09     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-27 23:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 12:42         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-02 16:53           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 17:39             ` Glen Choo
2022-06-03 15:57         ` Glen Choo
2022-05-27 21:09     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] config: read protected config with `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-28  0:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-31 17:43         ` Glen Choo
2022-06-01 15:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 12:56       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 21:09     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-28  0:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 13:11       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 21:09     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] config: include "-c" in protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-02 13:15       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 21:09     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] upload-pack: make uploadpack.packObjectsHook protected Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-02 13:18       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-07 20:57     ` [PATCH v4 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 20:57       ` [PATCH v4 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 20:57       ` [PATCH v4 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-22 21:58         ` Jonathan Tan
2022-06-23 18:21           ` Glen Choo
2022-06-07 20:57       ` [PATCH v4 3/5] config: read protected config with `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 22:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-08  0:22           ` Glen Choo
2022-06-07 20:57       ` [PATCH v4 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 20:57       ` [PATCH v4 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 21:37         ` Glen Choo
2022-06-22 22:03       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Jonathan Tan
2022-06-23 17:13         ` Glen Choo
2022-06-23 18:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-27 17:34             ` Glen Choo
2022-06-27 18:19       ` Glen Choo
2022-06-27 18:36       ` [PATCH v5 " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36         ` [PATCH v5 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36         ` [PATCH v5 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36         ` [PATCH v5 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36         ` [PATCH v5 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36         ` [PATCH v5 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 13:20           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-30 17:28             ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 18:13         ` [PATCH v6 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 18:13           ` [PATCH v6 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 22:32             ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-06 17:44               ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 18:13           ` [PATCH v6 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 23:49             ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-06 18:21               ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 18:13           ` [PATCH v6 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-01  1:22             ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-06 22:42               ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 18:13           ` [PATCH v6 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 18:13           ` [PATCH v6 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-01  1:30             ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-07 19:55               ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 22:13           ` [PATCH v6 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Taylor Blau
2022-06-30 23:07           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-01 17:37             ` Glen Choo
2022-07-08 21:58               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-12 20:47                 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-12 23:53                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-07 23:01           ` [PATCH v7 " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:01             ` [PATCH v7 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:43               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-08 17:01                 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-08 19:01                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-08 21:38                     ` Glen Choo
2022-07-07 23:01             ` [PATCH v7 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-08  0:39               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-07 23:01             ` [PATCH v7 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:01             ` [PATCH v7 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:01             ` [PATCH v7 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-08  1:07             ` [PATCH v7 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Junio C Hamano
2022-07-08 20:35               ` Glen Choo
2022-07-12 22:11                 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-14 21:27             ` [PATCH v8 0/5] config: introduce safe.bareRepository " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:27               ` [PATCH v8 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:27               ` [PATCH v8 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:27               ` [PATCH v8 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-25 18:26                 ` SANITIZE=address failure on master (was: [PATCH v8 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()`) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-25 20:15                   ` Glen Choo
2022-07-25 20:41                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-25 20:56                       ` Glen Choo
2022-07-14 21:28               ` [PATCH v8 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:28               ` [PATCH v8 5/5] setup.c: create `safe.bareRepository` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget

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