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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Abhradeep Chakraborty <chakrabortyabhradeep79@gmail.com>
Cc: Git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kaartic Sivaraam <kaartic.sivaraam@gmail.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:49:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrNIJ6z+a4++MGQ8@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220621115212.22383-1-chakrabortyabhradeep79@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 05:22:12PM +0530, Abhradeep Chakraborty wrote:
> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> wrote:
> > Yeah. The problem here is that we can't record every commit that
> > _doesn't_ have a bitmap every time we return NULL from one of these
> > queries, since there are arbitrarily many such commits that don't have
> > bitmaps.
> >
> > We could approximate it using a Bloom filter or something, and much of
> > that code is already written and could be interesting to try and reuse.
> > But I wonder if we could get by with something simpler, though, which
> > would cause us to load all bitmaps from the lookup table after a fixed
> > number of cache misses (at which point we should force ourselves to load
> > everything and just read everything out of a single O(1) lookup in the
> > stored bitmap table).
> >
> > That may or may not be a good idea, and the threshold will probably be
> > highly dependent on the system. So it may not even be worth it, but I
> > think it's an interesting area to experiemnt in and think a little more
> > about.
>
> Now I got the point. I wonder what if we leave it as it is. How much will
> it affect the code?

I'm not sure, and I think that it depends a lot on the repository and
query that we're running.

I'd imagine that the effect is probably measurable, but small. Each hash
lookup is cheap, but if there are many such lookups (a large proportion
of which end up resulting in "no, we haven't loaded this bitmap yet" and
then "...because no such bitmap exists for that commit") at some point
it is worth it to fault all of the commits that _do_ have bitmaps in and
answer authoritatively.

In other words, right now we have to do two queries when an commit
doesn't have a bitmap stored:

  - first, a lookup to see whether we have already loaded a bitmap for
    that commit

  - then, a subsequent lookup to see whether the .bitmap file itself has
    a bitmap for that commit, but we just haven't loaded it yet

If we knew that we had loaded all of the bitmaps in the file, then we
could simplify the above two queries into one, since whatever the first
one returns is enough to know whether or not a bitmap exists at all.

> > How does this commit_pos work again? I confess I have forgetten since I
> > wrote some of this code a while ago... :-).
>
> It is using recursive strategy. The first call to `stored_bitmap_for_commit`
> function do not have `pos_hint`. So, it uses `bitmap_table_lookup` to find
> the commit position in the list and makes a call to `lazy_bitmap_for_commit`
> function. This function gets the offset and xor-offset using the commit id's
> position in the list. If xor-offset exists, it is using this xor-offset to
> get the xor-bitmap by calling `stored_bitmap_for_commit` again. But this time
> `pos_hint` is xor-offset. This goes on till the last non-xor bitmap has found.

Ahhh. Thanks for refreshing my memory. I wonder if you think there is a
convenient way to work some of this into a short comment to help other
readers in the future, too.

> As I said before, xor-offset should be an absolute value to make it work
> correctly.

Yep, makes sense.

> > Should we print this regardless of whether or not there is a lookup
> > table? We should be able to learn the entry count either way.
>
> No, this is necessary. "Bitmap v1 test (%d entries loaded)" means
> all the bitmap entries has been loaded. It is basically for
> `load_bitmap_entries_bitmap_v1` function which loads all the bitmaps
> One by one. But if there is a lookup table, `prepare_bitmap_git`
> function will not load every entries and thus printing the above
> line is wrong.

Right, that part makes sense to me. But I wonder if we should still
print something, perhaps just "Bitmap v1 test" or "Bitmap v1 test (%d
entries)" omitting the "loaded" part.

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-22 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-20 12:33 [PATCH 0/6] [GSoC] bitmap: integrate a lookup table extension to the bitmap format Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-20 12:33 ` [PATCH 1/6] Documentation/technical: describe bitmap lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-20 16:56   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-20 17:09     ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-21  8:31       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-22 16:26         ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-21  8:23     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-20 17:21   ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-21  9:22     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-22 16:29       ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-22 16:45         ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-20 20:21   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-21 10:08     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-22 16:30       ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-20 12:33 ` [PATCH 2/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read " Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-20 20:49   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-21 10:28     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-20 22:06   ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-21 11:52     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-22 16:49       ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2022-06-22 17:18         ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-22 21:34           ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-20 12:33 ` [PATCH 3/6] pack-bitmap-write.c: write " Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-20 22:16   ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-21 12:50     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-22 16:51       ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-20 12:33 ` [PATCH 4/6] builtin/pack-objects.c: learn pack.writeBitmapLookupTable Taylor Blau via GitGitGadget
2022-06-20 22:18   ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-20 12:33 ` [PATCH 5/6] bitmap-commit-table: add tests for the bitmap lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-22 16:54   ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-20 12:33 ` [PATCH 6/6] bitmap-lookup-table: add performance tests Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-22 17:14   ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-26 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] [GSoC] bitmap: integrate a lookup table extension to the bitmap format Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-26 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] Documentation/technical: describe bitmap lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 14:18     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-27 15:48       ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-27 16:51       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-26 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] pack-bitmap-write.c: write " Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 14:35     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-27 16:12       ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-27 17:10       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-27 16:05     ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-27 18:29       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-26 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] pack-bitmap-write: learn pack.writeBitmapLookupTable and add tests Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 14:43     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-27 17:42       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-27 17:49         ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-27 17:47     ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-27 18:39       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-29 20:11         ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-26 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 15:12     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-27 18:06       ` [PATCH v2 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-27 18:32         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-27 21:49       ` [PATCH v2 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension Taylor Blau
2022-06-28  8:59         ` [PATCH v2 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-29 20:22           ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-30  6:58             ` [PATCH v2 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-27 21:38     ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-28 19:25       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-29 20:37         ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-29 20:41           ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-30  8:35           ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-26 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] bitmap-lookup-table: add performance tests for lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 21:53     ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-28  7:58       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-06-29 20:40         ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-26 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] p5310-pack-bitmaps.sh: enable pack.writeReverseIndex for testing Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 21:50     ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-28  8:01       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-04  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] [GSoC] bitmap: integrate a lookup table extension to the bitmap format Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-04  8:46     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] Documentation/technical: describe bitmap lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-08 16:38       ` Philip Oakley
2022-07-09  7:53         ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-10 15:01           ` Philip Oakley
2022-07-14 23:15             ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-15 10:36               ` Philip Oakley
2022-07-15 18:48             ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-04  8:46     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] pack-bitmap-write.c: write " Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 23:26       ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-15  2:22       ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-15 15:58         ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-15 22:15           ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-16 11:50             ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-26  0:34               ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-18  8:59       ` Martin Ågren
2022-07-04  8:46     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] pack-bitmap-write: learn pack.writeBitmapLookupTable and add tests Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-04  8:46     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-15  2:46       ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-15 16:38         ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-15 22:20           ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-18  9:06             ` Martin Ågren
2022-07-18 19:25               ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-18 23:26                 ` Martin Ågren
2022-07-26  0:45               ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-04  8:46     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] bitmap-lookup-table: add performance tests for lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-15  2:53       ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-15 18:23         ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-04  8:46     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] p5310-pack-bitmaps.sh: remove pack.writeReverseIndex Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-04 16:35     ` [PATCH v3 0/6] [GSoC] bitmap: integrate a lookup table extension to the bitmap format Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-06 19:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-07  8:48       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-07 18:09         ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2022-07-07 18:42           ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-20 14:05     ` [PATCH v4 " Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 14:05       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] Documentation/technical: describe bitmap lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 14:05       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] pack-bitmap-write.c: write " Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 14:05       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] pack-bitmap-write: learn pack.writeBitmapLookupTable and add tests Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 14:05       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 14:05       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] p5310-pack-bitmaps.sh: enable `pack.writeReverseIndex` Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 14:05       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] bitmap-lookup-table: add performance tests for lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 18:38       ` [PATCH v5 0/6] [GSoC] bitmap: integrate a lookup table extension to the bitmap format Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 18:38         ` [PATCH v5 1/6] Documentation/technical: describe bitmap lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-20 18:38         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] pack-bitmap-write.c: write " Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26  0:52           ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-26 18:22             ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-20 18:38         ` [PATCH v5 3/6] pack-bitmap-write: learn pack.writeBitmapLookupTable and add tests Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-28 19:22           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-02 12:40             ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-02 15:35               ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-02 17:44                 ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-08 13:06                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-08 13:58                     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-09  9:03                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-09 12:03                         ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-09 12:07                           ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-10  9:09                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-10  9:20                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-10 10:04                               ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-10 17:51                                 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-12 18:51                                   ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-12 19:22                                     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-13 10:59                                       ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-16 21:57                                         ` Taylor Blau
2022-08-17 10:02                                           ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-17 20:38                                             ` Taylor Blau
2022-08-19 21:49                                               ` Taylor Blau
2022-08-13 11:05                               ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-08-16 18:47                             ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-20 18:38         ` [PATCH v5 4/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26  1:13           ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-26 18:56             ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-26 19:36             ` Eric Sunshine
2022-07-20 18:38         ` [PATCH v5 5/6] p5310-pack-bitmaps.sh: enable `pack.writeReverseIndex` Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26  1:18           ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-26  7:15             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-26 13:32               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 13:54                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-26 18:17                   ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2022-07-20 18:38         ` [PATCH v5 6/6] bitmap-lookup-table: add performance tests for lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-14 16:55         ` [PATCH v6 0/6] [GSoC] bitmap: integrate a lookup table extension to the bitmap format Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-14 16:55           ` [PATCH v6 1/6] Documentation/technical: describe bitmap lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-14 16:55           ` [PATCH v6 2/6] bitmap: move `get commit positions` code to `bitmap_writer_finish` Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-14 16:55           ` [PATCH v6 3/6] pack-bitmap-write.c: write lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-14 16:55           ` [PATCH v6 4/6] pack-bitmap-write: learn pack.writeBitmapLookupTable and add tests Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-14 16:55           ` [PATCH v6 5/6] pack-bitmap: prepare to read lookup table extension Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-14 16:55           ` [PATCH v6 6/6] bitmap-lookup-table: add performance tests for lookup table Abhradeep Chakraborty via GitGitGadget
2022-08-19 21:21           ` [PATCH v6 0/6] [GSoC] bitmap: integrate a lookup table extension to the bitmap format Junio C Hamano
2022-08-22 14:42             ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-22 14:48               ` Taylor Blau
2022-08-25 22:16           ` Taylor Blau
2022-08-26 16:02             ` Junio C Hamano

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