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From: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>
To: Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Eric DeCosta <edecosta@mathworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 12:50:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a63bda82-3dfc-44e0-8ecf-ca340d0a95b4@jeffhostetler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.1326.git.1660855703816.gitgitgadget@gmail.com>



On 8/18/22 4:48 PM, Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget wrote:
> From: Eric DeCosta <edecosta@mathworks.com>
> 
> Though perhaps not common, there are uses cases where users have large,
> network-mounted repos. Having the ability to run fsmonitor against
> network paths would benefit those users.
> 
> As a first step towards enabling fsmonitor to work against
> network-mounted repos, a configuration option, 'fsmonitor.allowRemote'
> was introduced for Windows. Setting this option to true will override
> the default behavior (erroring-out) when a network-mounted repo is
> detected by fsmonitor. In order for macOS to have parity with Windows,
> the same option is now introduced for macOS.

We might also say that this config option only allows FSMonitor
to TRY to consider using a network-mounted repo.  And that this
ability is considered experimental until sufficient testing can
be completed and we can determine the combinations of
{ client os } x { server os } x { remote access } x { file system type }
that are known to work or not work and we can update the defaults
and the documentation accordingly.

For example, on a MacOS client, we expect the local "fseventsd" service
to send us recursive events on all files and sub directories under the
repo root.  If the server is a Linux machine (which doesn't really do
recursive events), does exporting the FS from the server over NFS or SMB
(or whatever) cause the Linux host to send enough information to the
client machine for fseventsd to synthesize the recursive event stream
locally that FSMonitor expects.  It might.  It might not.  That
combination should be tested (along with a lot of other combinations).

But again, this patch is just about allowing the (informed?) user to
try it and begin testing various combinations.


> 
> The the added wrinkle being that the Unix domain socket (UDS) file
> used for IPC cannot be created in a network location; instead the
> temporary directory is used.

This scares me a bit.  I put the socket in the .git directory
so that we are guaranteed that only one daemon will run on the
repository and that all clients will know where to find that socket
(if it exists).

It looks like you're creating the UDS using a tmp pathname and
writing the pathname to the actual .git/fsmonitor--daemon.ipc FILE.
This adds a layer of indirection and is prone to races.


The act of creating the actual socket is protected by code in
unix-socket.c and unix-stream-server.c to try to safely create
the socket and avoid stepping on another active daemon (who
currently has the server-side of the socket open).

My code also detects dead sockets (where a previous daemon died
and failed to delete the socket).


Additionally, allowing remote access means that the repo could
be used by multiple client machines and/or by the server machine
itself.  Consider the example of two MacOS clients mounting the
remote repo and both wanting to start FSMonitor.  They would
constantly fight to recreate a new local-tmp-based socket and
update your pathname FILE and end up invalidating each other on
each command.


Also, if someone overwrites your new pathname FILE, but doesn't tell
the daemon, the daemon will be orphaned -- still running, but no one
will ever connect to it because the FILE no longer points to it.


There was a suggestion later in this thread about using a SHA-1
or SHA-256 hash of the pathname to avoid the tmp XXXXXX pattern
and just put the socket in $HOME (and omit the need for the new
fsmonitor-daemon.ipc FILE completely).  This might work, but we
need to be careful because a user might have hardlinks or symlinks
locally so there may be more than one unique path to the repo
on the local system.  (It is OK to have more than one daemon
listening to a repo, just less efficient.)


As an interim step, you might try using my original socket code
plus just the config.allowRemote=true change.  And test it on a
mounted repo where you've converted the .git directory to a .git
file and moved contents of the .git directory to somewhere local.
Then the UDS would be created in the local GITDIR instead of on
the remote system.  This won't help any of the sharing cases I
described above, but will let you experiment with getting remote
events.

Jeff



> base-commit: 9bf691b78cf906751e65d65ba0c6ffdcd9a5a12c
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-19 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 177+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-18 20:48 [PATCH] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-18 21:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-18 21:38   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-19 10:05 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-19 16:50 ` Jeff Hostetler [this message]
2022-08-19 18:38   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-08-19 20:15     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-08-19 17:48 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-19 18:58 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2022-08-20 22:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-22 13:22   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-22 16:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-23 13:51     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-08-24 15:45       ` Eric DeCosta
2022-08-23 13:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] fsmonitor: macOS: " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] Check working directory and Unix domain socket file for compatability edecosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Minor refactoring and simplification of Windows settings checks edecosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 18:55   ` [PATCH v3 0/2] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 18:55     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] fsmonitor: macOS: " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-23 18:55     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Check working directory and Unix domain socket file for compatability edecosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-24 20:31       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-24 16:46     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-08-31 16:09     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] fsmonitor: add two new config options, allowRemote and socketDir Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 19:41         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-31 20:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-01  2:25           ` Ramsay Jones
2022-09-01 17:53         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-01 18:04         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-01 21:21         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-02 16:54           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 14:27             ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] fsmonitor: generate unique Unix socket file name in the desired location Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 19:49         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-31 20:11         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] fsmonitor: ensure filesystem and unix socket filesystem are compatible Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 16:09       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] fsmonitor: normalize FSEvents event paths to the real path Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-31 19:37         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-01 20:05         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-02 16:35           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 17:13             ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-06 19:02               ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 19:33                 ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-06 22:11                   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-07 19:14                   ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-07 23:04                     ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-10 20:00       ` [PATCH v5 0/4] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-10 20:00         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-11  1:01           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-12 15:27         ` [PATCH v5 0/4] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-09-12 19:37           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-12 19:39             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-12 15:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-12 19:35           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-13 20:27         ` [PATCH v6 0/6] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 1/6] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 2/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 3/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-14  0:48             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-14 15:47               ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 4/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-14  1:48             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 5/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-13 20:27           ` [PATCH v6 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 17:58           ` [PATCH v6 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-16 20:02             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-16 19:53           ` [PATCH v7 " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 20:11               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19 12:31                 ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-19 16:42                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19 17:08                     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-19 17:49                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19 23:51                         ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-20 14:35                           ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-20 15:49                             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 5/6] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 20:15               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-16 19:53             ` [PATCH v7 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-16 20:09             ` [PATCH v7 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-09-17  1:12             ` [PATCH v8 0/5] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 1/5] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 2/5] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  4:13                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-19 16:50                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-17  6:29                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-17 16:29                   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-19 16:58                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 3/5] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 4/5] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  1:12               ` [PATCH v8 5/5] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-17  6:08                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-19 23:55                   ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-19 19:37               ` [PATCH v9 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:57                   ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-19 19:37                 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                 ` [PATCH v10 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 11:22                     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-09-21 13:03                       ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-20 20:33                   ` [PATCH v10 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                   ` [PATCH v11 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-21 22:18                     ` [PATCH v11 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                     ` [PATCH v12 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-26 15:16                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27  1:53                           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-26 15:27                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-25 14:00                         ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-26 15:23                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27  1:25                           ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-24 19:46                       ` [PATCH v12 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-26 15:11                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27  2:16                           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-09-27  4:03                             ` Eric DeCosta
2022-09-25 14:18                       ` [PATCH v12 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta
2022-09-27 20:57                       ` [PATCH v13 " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28  5:55                           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-27 20:57                         ` [PATCH v13 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                         ` [PATCH v14 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-09-28 20:12                           ` [PATCH v14 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                           ` [PATCH v15 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 1/6] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30  9:37                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 2/6] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30  9:58                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 3/6] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 4/6] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30 10:08                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 5/6] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 17:32                             ` [PATCH v15 6/6] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-01-30 10:04                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-05 18:05                             ` [PATCH v15 0/6] fsmonitor: option to allow fsmonitor to run against network-mounted repos Junio C Hamano
2022-10-05 21:14                               ` Eric DeCosta
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-08-09 17:44 [PATCH] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 16:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-10 18:49   ` Eric D
2022-08-10 19:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-10 20:36       ` Eric D
2022-08-10 21:30         ` Eric D
2022-08-10 21:41           ` Junio C Hamano

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