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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Josh England <jjengla@sandia.gov>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: empty directories
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:25:21 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708221618510.30176@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1187817948.5986.159.camel@beauty>



On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Josh England wrote:
>
> The main need is for file ownership/permission, which has been touched 
> on before.  When I clone an image, I really want an *identical* clone, 
> in every way.  It seems as though git had this functionality but 
> scrapped it due to issues with umask and merge type problems?

Well, git had all permission bits, but never ownership. And yes, using 
more than the one user-x-bit ended up being totally unusable for source 
code, because of different people having different umask, so we 
effectively dropped the permission bits too (although the data format was 
retained, so we could re-introduce then with some flag that says "honor 
all permission bits, not just the x bit").

But the ownership thing we've never even tried to support, since it was so 
obviously not something that was appropriate for a distributed project. So 
if you want an identical clone with ownership and (full) permissions, you 
really do need to have some alternate way to fill in the blanks.

I've argued that ".gitattributes" may be an acceptable alternate, 
especially since ownership is often something that is less than "per 
file", and more often "has certain patterns".

> So the question is:  would there be any way to bring this functionality 
> back as a non-default configurable option?  For those of us who need the 
> functionality, we'd be more than willing to live with some of the 
> side-effects.

Full permissions might be easy enough to resurrect, but since it's still 
pointless without ownership, that really isn't even relevant.

But if .gitattributes would work, you probably could introduce both full 
permissions and ownership rules there. We read git attributes for *other* 
reasons when checking files out _anyway_, ie we need the CRLF attribute 
stuff, so adding ownership attributes would not be at all odd.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-22 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-21 17:14 empty directories Josh England
2007-08-21 17:40 ` Sean
2007-08-22 21:25   ` Josh England
2007-08-22 23:25     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-08-22 23:55       ` David Kastrup
2007-08-23 15:24       ` Josh England
2007-08-23 21:51       ` tracking perms/ownership [was: empty directories] Josh England
2007-08-23 22:08         ` tracking perms/ownership Junio C Hamano
2007-08-23 23:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-24  6:16             ` David Kastrup
2007-08-24  6:37               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-24  7:38                 ` Josh England
2007-08-24  7:50                 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-24 17:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-24 18:15                     ` Josh England
2007-08-24 18:23                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-24 18:56                         ` Josh England
2007-08-24 20:37                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-08-24 21:26                             ` Josh England
2007-08-24 19:33                       ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-08-24 21:30                     ` David Kastrup
2007-08-24  7:22           ` Josh England
2007-08-24  7:39             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-08-24  8:19               ` Josh England
2007-08-24 16:11           ` Josh England
2007-08-24 16:27             ` Josh England
2007-08-24  9:38         ` tracking perms/ownership [was: empty directories] Johannes Schindelin
2007-08-24  9:52           ` Jeff King
2007-08-24 15:50             ` Josh England
2007-08-24 20:58               ` Jeff King
2007-08-25 14:31                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-08-25 14:46                   ` tracking perms/ownership Junio C Hamano
2007-08-25 19:35                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-08-24 10:05           ` tracking perms/ownership [was: empty directories] Jeff King
2007-08-25 14:30             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-08-24 17:10       ` empty directories Jason Garber
2007-08-22 23:40     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-08-22  0:06 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-08-22  4:31 ` Salikh Zakirov
2007-08-22 18:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-22 19:12     ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-15 21:20 Empty Directories Trans
2008-08-15 21:42 ` Marcus Griep
2008-08-15 21:46 ` Miklos Vajna
2008-08-16  1:53 ` Paul Franz
2007-07-18  0:13 Empty directories David Kastrup
2007-07-18  0:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-18  6:07   ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 10:26     ` Johannes Schindelin
     [not found]       ` <86tzs2m1h7.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>
2007-07-18 11:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-18 11:40           ` Matthieu Moy
2007-07-18 12:12             ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 16:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 16:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 17:38         ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 18:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 16:39       ` Matthieu Moy
2007-07-18 17:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 21:37           ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 21:45             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 23:13               ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 17:34       ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18  0:39 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-07-18  6:16   ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18  6:30     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-07-18  2:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-18  5:56   ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18  6:34     ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-07-18  6:53     ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]       ` <867ioyqhgc.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>
2007-07-18 23:34         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-20  8:29       ` Johan Herland
2007-07-20  8:41         ` David Kastrup
2007-07-20 10:20           ` Johan Herland
2007-07-20 10:54             ` David Kastrup
2007-07-20 12:18               ` Johan Herland
     [not found]                 ` <86odi7utdj.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>
2007-07-20 13:20                   ` Johan Herland
2007-07-20 13:33                     ` David Kastrup
2007-07-22 21:35       ` David Kastrup
2007-07-26 23:33 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-07-27  5:22   ` David Kastrup
2007-04-23 15:40 empty directories Yakov Lerner
2007-04-23 16:19 ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-23 16:49   ` Yakov Lerner

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