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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:14:10 +0200 (DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1804190944470.4241@ZVAVAG-6OXH6DA.rhebcr.pbec.zvpebfbsg.pbz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cREYENM7Y8SqtG2ket9+oJ6w0OU1_Qa8f-+O_yDyH=Aww@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Eric,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Eric Sunshine wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Johannes Schindelin
> <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > The grafts feature was a convenient way to "stich together" ancient
> > history to the fresh start of linux.git.
> > [...]
> > The much younger feature implemented as `git replace` set out to remedy
> > those limitations and dangerous bugs.
> >
> > Seeing as `git replace` is pretty mature by now, it is time to deprecate
> > support for the graft file, and to retire it eventually.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
> > ---
> >  advice.c                  | 2 ++
> >  advice.h                  | 1 +
> >  commit.c                  | 9 +++++++++
> >  t/t6001-rev-list-graft.sh | 9 +++++++++
> >  4 files changed, 21 insertions(+)
> 
> Perhaps, as part of this deprecation, the example in
> Documentation/git-filter-branch.txt should be updated to suggest
> git-replace instead of .git/info/grafts.

Good point!

> Maybe, also, Documentation/shallow.txt should talk about replace-refs
> rather than .git/info/grafts.

Sure. Internally, of course, "shallow" is still handled very much like the
graft file. In that sense, it is probably a good thing to keep referring
to the graft file in technical/shallow *in addition* to replace refs.

The reason why the graft file should be deprecated does not apply to
the shallow file at all, either: the entire set of problems with grafts
comes from the fact that you can *replace* the parents *with other
parents*. That allows for pushing corrupt history to public repositories
IIRC. The same problems do not arise with the shallow feature, where you
can *cut* history, but not replace it.

There is a notable difference between shallow commits and replace refs
which I did not think about earlier (it actually only came up in testing):
we currently disallow completely to replace merge commits when they
contain mergetags, i.e. entries in the commit header that record the hash
of the *tag* that was merged (if any). That includes the case where you
want to replace the commit with a root commit, as would be needed for
shallow commits.

However, there are more reasons not to conflate the shallow commits with
replaced commits: by nature, the "shallow" attribute is a lot more
volatile than the "replaced" one, as we want to keep it easy to deepen the
history (or to "unshallow" it).

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-19  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-13 11:11 [PATCH] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-13 18:22 ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-13 22:35   ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-13 22:45     ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-19  8:15       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-13 18:57 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-19  8:14   ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2018-04-19  8:17 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Deprecate .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19  8:17   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] replace: "libify" create_graft() Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20  0:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-20 11:51       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-20 15:32       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19  8:17   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] replace: introduce --convert-graft-file Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19 10:09     ` Christian Couder
2018-04-20 13:57       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20  1:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-20 15:26       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19  8:18   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] Add a test for `git replace --convert-graft-file` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20  1:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-20 15:31       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19  8:18   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19  8:18   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] filter-branch: stop suggesting to use grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19  8:19   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] technical/shallow: describe the relationship with replace refs Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-19  8:21   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] technical/shallow: describe why shallow cannot use " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:20   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Deprecate .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:20     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] argv_array: offer to split a string by whitespace Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 23:29       ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-21  9:39         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:21     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] commit: Let the callback of for_each_mergetag return on error Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:21     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] replace: avoid using die() to indicate a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:21     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] replace: "libify" create_graft() and callees Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:22     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] replace: introduce --convert-graft-file Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:23     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] Add a test for `git replace --convert-graft-file` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  6:20       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-04-21  9:42         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:24     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:25     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] filter-branch: stop suggesting to use grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] technical/shallow: describe the relationship with replace refs Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-22 15:16       ` Philip Oakley
2018-04-24 19:10         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-24 21:34           ` Philip Oakley
2018-04-25  0:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-25  7:17               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] technical/shallow: describe why shallow cannot use " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-20 22:27     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] Remove obsolete script to convert grafts to " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:43     ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Deprecate .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:46       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] argv_array: offer to split a string by whitespace Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-24  1:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-24  2:38           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-21  9:46       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] commit: Let the callback of for_each_mergetag return on error Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:47       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] replace: avoid using die() to indicate a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:47       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] replace: "libify" create_graft() and callees Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-23 19:08         ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-24 18:51           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-24 19:03             ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-25  7:10               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:48       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] replace: introduce --convert-graft-file Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-22  3:30         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-24 19:04           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:48       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] Add a test for `git replace --convert-graft-file` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:49       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:49       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] filter-branch: stop suggesting to use grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:51       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] technical/shallow: describe the relationship with replace refs Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:56       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] technical/shallow: describe why shallow cannot use " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-21  9:56       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] Remove obsolete script to convert grafts to " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-23 19:24       ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Deprecate .git/info/grafts Stefan Beller
2018-04-25  9:53       ` [PATCH v5 " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:53         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] argv_array: offer to split a string by whitespace Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] commit: Let the callback of for_each_mergetag return on error Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] replace: avoid using die() to indicate a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] replace: "libify" create_graft() and callees Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] replace: introduce --convert-graft-file Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] Add a test for `git replace --convert-graft-file` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] filter-branch: stop suggesting to use grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] technical/shallow: stop referring to grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25 12:25           ` Jakub Narębski
2018-04-26  9:19             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] technical/shallow: describe why shallow cannot use replace refs Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-25  9:54         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] Remove obsolete script to convert grafts to " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-26  4:10         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Deprecate .git/info/grafts Junio C Hamano
2018-04-27 21:03           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39         ` [PATCH v6 " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 01/11] argv_array: offer to split a string by whitespace Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 02/11] commit: Let the callback of for_each_mergetag return on error Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 03/11] replace: avoid using die() to indicate a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 04/11] replace: "libify" create_graft() and callees Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 05/11] replace: introduce --convert-graft-file Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 06/11] Add a test for `git replace --convert-graft-file` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28  1:25             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-04-28 13:07               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 07/11] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:39           ` [PATCH v6 08/11] filter-branch: stop suggesting to use grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:40           ` [PATCH v6 09/11] technical/shallow: stop referring to grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:40           ` [PATCH v6 10/11] technical/shallow: describe why shallow cannot use replace refs Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-27 21:40           ` [PATCH v6 11/11] Remove obsolete script to convert grafts to " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28  9:04             ` Philip Oakley
2018-04-28 13:13               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 15:00               ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-28 22:47           ` [Re-send PATCH v7 00/12] Deprecate .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 01/12] argv_array: offer to split a string by whitespace Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 02/12] commit: Let the callback of for_each_mergetag return on error Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 03/12] replace: avoid using die() to indicate a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 04/12] replace: "libify" create_graft() and callees Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 05/12] replace: prepare create_graft() for converting graft files wholesale Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 06/12] replace: introduce --convert-graft-file Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 07/12] Add a test for `git replace --convert-graft-file` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 08/12] Deprecate support for .git/info/grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-27 20:12               ` [PATCH] advice: don't pointlessly suggest --convert-graft-file Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-28  6:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-28  9:03                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:44             ` [PATCH v7 09/12] filter-branch: stop suggesting to use grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:45             ` [PATCH v7 10/12] technical/shallow: stop referring to grafts Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:45             ` [PATCH v7 11/12] technical/shallow: describe why shallow cannot use replace refs Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-28 22:45             ` [PATCH v7 12/12] Remove obsolete script to convert grafts to " Johannes Schindelin

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